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My main point has only really been I think 19s have had community problems that has left the bracket dry.

Ive went on about many things , some not even to do with my original post focus but ill assume you are talking about the stuff I said about 19s and new players.

it was between people but now u can add multiple people into 1 chat with voice system. Pretty cool.

I never said I they didn't view me that way. I didn't care then and don't care now is all I was saying. I understand you concern for being grouped with such a offender.

yup

Lol I love this comment. I have never really cared about what others thought in regards to me as a player. I was just gonna play and impact the bracket as I liked. In the past I did heat up a lot of arguments but my actions ended up speaking louder than my post. Im glad you have fire in ya for...

Im glad you have a positive attitude, most 19s were basically gaspedals

I personally haven't had problems with 19s but they haven't conducted themselves in a respectable manner outside of their leaders. Now their paying the cost for it.

We have put them into tournaments and even have people who speak Spanish to try to include them and get them going into games. 19s give 0 effort towards those things.

Well other than you and a few others, 19s have always been the place for on demand players that already have some type of experience in the game even if its other brackets. If 19s took time to grow their community and new players they would be popping with all type of events and premades, but...

Then they could get into premades more.

Not all have no idea what their doing but struggle to learn the current meta without people willing to include them in casual games. Not saying you need to add them in tournaments but if u just shut the door your basically facing the same people over and over again and asking 29s to play vs you...

Im not talking about new to bracket players im talking about new to game players.

You seem to misunderstand lol. I'm not talking about just new to 19s but more new to the game in general. Players who have less pvp experience and more work to do to keep up in games.

Hardcore bracket for BGs I might add.

Yes I agree with you on that. I feel there should be room to include newer players in order for the bracket to expand past the people who already been there for so long. I feel the narrative as in this is the bracket to join is not portrayed in the most honest way. What you just said is more...

Self inflicted wounds are showing on this bracket lol. I wouldn't have a problem with this bracket if they actually looked at issues and solved them rather than rely on a select few to organize everything to keep things rolling. This bracket is still unfit for new players community wise. I don't...

Your making up stuff, everyone knows they were disrespectful regardless of any post, u must be retarded or new.

19s has been one of the most rotten communities of all time. Disrespectful non helpful community members all over the place. I would not recommend new players joining 19s. If you have experience already 19s can be somewhat fun.

AP seems to be one of the few realms that hasn't 100% fallen off a cliff since cata. Even though its nowhere the way it was its still there. Was a good idea to get a guild going on AP.