Improving as a player

[diddleme]

So I haven't been active at all recently as my sub ran out but now that I am back and after the twink cup I want to improve as a player. 19s have taught me a lot already since I have started, such as the importance of keybindings and macros. I know some of the things I need to improve on and basically it boils down to awareness and positioning. I still need to get a few addons and such that should help but any general tips I could get that may help?

 

[Erizel]

Keep a good eye on both enemy flag carrier and your own teams flag carrier, and be ready to abandon midfight if your fc is in a bad spot or efc is vulnerable. Also learn the gulch, and the different ways to get around (jumps and terrain in general).
As far as addons goes a necessity is BattlegroundTargets to keep an eye on the enemy team easier. An other good addon is OmbiBar to keep track of interrupts (if you are playing a healer / caster). There's alot of small addons aswell but those are mostly down to preference.

 

[Solipsist]

What class/classes do you want to focus on?

 

[diddleme]

What class/classes do you want to focus on?

Druid and hunter right now. I feel like I can make a larger impact on games and still have fun in pugs with them. Boomkin or resto for druid.

 

[Allybeboba]

In my opinion, it best to master one or two classes. Rather than be merely good at lot of classes.
Me, all I do is play heals in PvP. Period... Even at end game. I do not like to DPS. I find healing more of a challenge. Each time someone within my healing range dies, or does not get dispelled, I feel as if I failed them in my duty in the game.
That's not to say that finding the quickest way to "kill" someone is a challenge either. But how many times do you hear someone yell "focus the DPS, focus the DPS!"?... kek
Focus on a couple classes, learn those and learn them well. Use targeting macros and assist macros for call outs and focusing. There are TONS of pet macros for hunters and warlocks. Those two classes have high skill ceilings if played correctly. Learn the basic jumps in WSG, because for whatever reason many hate to play Arathi Basin or even Eye of the Storm.

 

[diddleme]

In my opinion, it best to master one or two classes. Rather than be merely good at lot of classes.
Me, all I do is play heals in PvP. Period... Even at end game. I do not like to DPS. I find healing more of a challenge. Each time someone within my healing range dies, or does not get dispelled, I feel as if I failed them in my duty in the game.
That's not to say that finding the quickest way to "kill" someone is a challenge either. But how many times do you hear someone yell "focus the DPS, focus the DPS!"?... kek
Focus on a couple classes, learn those and learn them well. Use targeting macros and assist macros for call outs and focusing. There are TONS of pet macros for hunters and warlocks. Those two classes have high skill ceilings if played correctly. Learn the basic jumps in WSG, because for whatever reason many hate to play Arathi Basin or even Eye of the Storm.

I was doing this but with a lack of positioning and slight unawreness I wasn't too effective. I'd like to become better mechanically then build from there which class or classes I'll be playing

 

[Rusks]

one thing that helps me is playing with someone. they will be able to point out what you did wrong when you cant see it, get in call with then and queue pugs or arenas.

 

[Jetlife]

addons for tracking interrupt is significant, simply put; almost nothing looks worse than when someone is trying to fake an interrupt that is on cd. definitely stagnates your preformance as any caster if u choose to not use it... u can see who should be using it when it happens, the ones who it doesnt happen with are either conditioned enough for their interrupt awareness (not many) or they have an interrupt bar, one of the various couple that people can download, ive seen a couple diff one that work good.

as for non casters, for most of them theres only so much that the class can do... id make more than just a hunter..... then again some people say only play 1 or 2 to master.... but thats not how i'd treat it until after you've tried all the classes as to know which you truly enjoy most and or have the best natural feel for operating.

 

[Apnea]

I disagree with mastering 1-2 classes - I think it's super beneficial to play a variety of classes, even if you don't master any of them. Learning each class allows you to figure out which one you like best based on your play style and helps you to adapt to and counter the those classes when you come across them in game.

Watch and learn from the best; check the best-of threads and learn from them, learn the things they do that make people consider them the best.

Always be aware of what's going on around you with your team and the opposition, don't develop tunnel vision. It takes practice, but know where you need to be when you need to be there according to which class you're playing at the time.

Just practice, play as much as you can - check TI and any other related sites for info, be a sponge and absorb as much community knowledge as you can. There's no special secret to improving, it's the same as anything in life. Practice and be hungry for knowledge.

 

[diddleme]

Thanks for the help so far guys

 

[Superstylin]

So I haven't been active at all recently as my sub ran out but now that I am back and after the twink cup I want to improve as a player. 19s have taught me a lot already since I have started, such as the importance of keybindings and macros. I know some of the things I need to improve on and basically it boils down to awareness and positioning. I still need to get a few addons and such that should help but any general tips I could get that may help?

I wrote a guide a while back covering the basics. http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f202/just-basics-part-1-a-59639/

For addons, I would also recommend Omni Bar.

To get better with positioning and awareness, I would definitely watch as many of the exhibition games as you can.

If you want to get better at the mechanics of a certain class, pugging will definitely help. 19s are pretty straight forward though so it shouldn't take too long. The more you play the more you will learn.

 

[Solipsist]

Druid and hunter right now. I feel like I can make a larger impact on games and still have fun in pugs with them. Boomkin or resto for druid.

I disagree with mastering 1-2 classes - I think it's super beneficial to play a variety of classes, even if you don't master any of them. Learning each class allows you to figure out which one you like best based on your play style and helps you to adapt to and counter the those classes when you come across them in game.

Watch and learn from the best; check the best-of threads and learn from them, learn the things they do that make people consider them the best.

Always be aware of what's going on around you with your team and the opposition, don't develop tunnel vision. It takes practice, but know where you need to be when you need to be there according to which class you're playing at the time.

Just practice, play as much as you can - check TI and any other related sites for info, be a sponge and absorb as much community knowledge as you can. There's no special secret to improving, it's the same as anything in life. Practice and be hungry for knowledge.

I full agree with mastering 1-2 classes. Why would you play a variety and confuse yourself if you can't pin down one class to start with? Make it simple, just stick with either you boomkin or your hunter. Practice immensely on that one class and if you really don't enjoy it move on to another one, but don't go hopping from class to class every week, you will get nowhere. You don't need to play every class to learn them, it's quite simple to see what other classes do since there is only a small amount of ability's.

I recommend not looking at any best of threads because they are completely useless and just a circle jerk of overrated players. If you ever need any specifics on class mechanics hit me up. People on here are just over complicating the **** out of it.

 

[Jetlife]

the divide on whether people should stick to 1 or 2 classes vses multiclass is pretty strong considering theres no examples of twinks right now who have mastered their class and as a result provide completely flaw-free gameplay.

its like mastering what you play will only take you so far, cuz even situations where 0 mistakes are made at any second/global of combat, the high burst of the bracket(in conjunction with OP fotm's) overpowers a player being mastered on their classes play, in many many many cases... too many.

imo twinking @ 19 is a funner experience when not confined to 1 or 2 classes every day, it gets old fast that way.

 

[Rusks]

if you put in the time and effort you will improve. It can't hurt to have a perspective from multiple classes there are things you might not notice until you play the class. [MENTION=11844]youbeezy[/MENTION] I can't find the podcast that was talking about this what number was it again?

 

[diddleme]

if you put in the time and effort you will improve. It can't hurt to have a perspective from multiple classes there are things you might not notice until you play the class. [MENTION=11844]youbeezy[/MENTION] I can't find the podcast that was talking about this what number was it again?

Probably 84 which is about how to be an "alpha twink" gonna listen to it again when I have the time

 

[Srs]

just played a 100s pugs in random queue wsg. the field non-awareness was off the charts. had to literally explain the objectives of the game. if you have the slightest clues as to what the objectives are, you can have a positive influence on the game. other than that, standing in the middle of dps with cc's is bad (something i still struggle with).

if you play heals, try to stay around the perimeter of any fight your in, while still staying in range of other healers if possible. if dps, try staying in range of heals while not penetrating so far as to become susceptible to enemy cc's.

as a priest i have a hard time repositioning; as a goblin shaman, almost none at all.

 

[Allybeboba]

imo twinking @ 19 is a funner experience when not confined to 1 or 2 classes every day, it gets old fast that way.

That is why you do not play each and every day. That way you do not suffer from "burn out".

Min/maxing is part of the game for many people. Yes, ideally, one should try their hand at each class in order for them to learn what is the best way to counter said class. And the then go on to "master" one's class of choice. Theoretically said person should try each class and each race combination. I am sure there are some players that have taken that far.
It is pretty unbelievable what people(guilds) will do for Server Firsts. I have seen it first hand.

Sweetsidney

 

[Mesikämmen]

In my opinion, it best to master one or two classes.

I think quite the opposite. IMO the best way to anticipate your enemies thinking and decisions is to have played the class you're facing. You'll always have a better idea what your opponent will do next, if you have been in his/her position playing the same class earlier. Just my 2 cents doe...

That doesn't mean you couldn't have a "main" twink or pick a class or two to master them, but having played every class in the bracket will definitely give you an edge vs less experienced players.

EDIT: One thing I'd definitely get for playing any class (but especially druid) is an addon called SpellAlerter. I'm not sure if it's still getting updated regularly, but what it does is let you add any spells for the addon to track, and when someone nearby is casting that spell, it will show who is casting it and what spell. Amazing for example when you're carrying the flag as a druid, and the addon tells someone started casting entangling roots; with a bit of practice, you'll be able to powershift the root on you nearly instantly without even taking a glance at the druid casting roots on you. Also helps for shifting polys, LoSing fears and A LOT of other stuff. You can also add interrupt spells, so the addon will alert you when a kick/cs for example has been used.

 

[Allybeboba]

I think quite the opposite. IMO the best way to anticipate your enemies thinking and decisions is to have played the class you're facing. You'll always have a better idea what your opponent will do next, if you have been in his/her position playing the same class earlier. Just my 2 cents doe...

That doesn't mean you couldn't have a "main" twink or pick a class or two to master them, but having played every class in the bracket will definitely give you an edge vs less experienced players.

See post #17 ...

 

[Allybeboba]

just played a 100s pugs in random queue wsg. the field non-awareness was off the charts. had to literally explain the objectives of the game. if you have the slightest clues as to what the objectives are, you can have a positive influence on the game. other than that, standing in the middle of dps with cc's is bad (something i still struggle with.

People don't listen to others in BGs.
Do you?...
Largest part of the time I do not.