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  • Blackened Defias Gloves/Boots are BiS, its the same Agility but gives a +10 armor bonus.

    Also Ripsaw how come you go with AP enchants on your bracers? (I don't disagree with you, I see alot of Rogues do it), but you don't have the AP Glove enchants or use the 'Cloaked Shoulders of AP' or use 'Scouting Trousers of AP', is AP only better on the Bracer Enchant specifically or is it better to stack all out if it makes your AP higher.
     
    Void Trinket bis nowadays? :eek:

    Once AGM is on it's 15 minute CD, it is just too good to not use.

    In the 20-29 bracket, each tentacle hits for about 250 damage and there are 5 tentacles that last for 20 seconds, so it forces the enemy to move out of them or die.

    It puts rogues/druids out of stealth, so it can be a very good defensive ability

    I like putting it right outside of a berserker/healing hut and I get 20 seconds to eat up or restealth

    It's great to put up during teamfights

    the 9 vers doesn't hurt also
     
    Blackened Defias Gloves/Boots are BiS, its the same Agility but gives a +10 armor bonus.

    Also Ripsaw how come you go with AP enchants on your bracers? (I don't disagree with you, I see alot of Rogues do it), but you don't have the AP Glove enchants or use the 'Cloaked Shoulders of AP' or use 'Scouting Trousers of AP', is AP only better on the Bracer Enchant specifically or is it better to stack all out if it makes your AP higher.

    Defias Gloves are 2 agility less than his gloves, also +10 bonus armor is for tank specs only, so you don't get anything from the set bonus of defias

    The thing is, the agility bracer enchant is 4 agility (6 AP and a small amount of dodge). AP bracer enchant is 5 AP (7.5 AP no dodge). So AP bracer enchant is better. For glove enchant, its 6 agility (9 AP and some dodge), the AP enchant is 6 AP (9 AP no dodge). So agility is better if it's the equal amount, but the bracer enchant gives 1 more AP so it's worth the loss of dodge for the extra AP. Hopefully that clarifies it.
     
    Defias Gloves are 2 agility less than his gloves, also +10 bonus armor is for tank specs only, so you don't get anything from the set bonus of defias

    The thing is, the agility bracer enchant is 4 agility (6 AP and a small amount of dodge). AP bracer enchant is 5 AP (7.5 AP no dodge). So AP bracer enchant is better. For glove enchant, its 6 agility (9 AP and some dodge), the AP enchant is 6 AP (9 AP no dodge). So agility is better if it's the equal amount, but the bracer enchant gives 1 more AP so it's worth the loss of dodge for the extra AP. Hopefully that clarifies it.

    Why do people think 1 agility = 1.5 AP
     
    Yapah.

    1. You're absolutely right about the Defias Gloves, I made a mistake, I get the 10+ Armor bonus from just wearing the Defias Belt and the Boots which are BiS Agility-wise anyway so its not costing anything.

    2. So what about pure AP enchanted gear like 'Cloaked Shoulders of Attack Power' or 'Scouting Tunic of Attack Power', do these give more DPS/Burst damage then Agility counterparts, or are they not as viable as Gloomshroud/Cloaked Shoulderpads of Agility.

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    Yapah.

    1. You're absolutely right about the Defias Gloves, I made a mistake, I get the 10+ Armor bonus from just wearing the Defias Belt and the Boots which are BiS Agility-wise anyway so its not costing anything.

    2. So what about pure AP enchanted gear like 'Cloaked Shoulders of Attack Power' or 'Scouting Tunic of Attack Power', do these give more DPS/Burst damage then Agility counterparts, or are they not as viable as Gloomshroud/Cloaked Shoulderpads of Agility.

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    1.) +10 armor bonus doesnt work for rogues, its for tank specs only, so using feet of the lynx or the boots from stockaids will be exactly the same stats and you wont have less armor (although defias boots is sweg)

    2.)Cloaked Shoulderpads of Power is 10 AP, this means it is 15 AP for combat rogue. Cloaked Shoulderpads of Agility is 10 agility, this means this is 15 AP and some dodge for combat rogue. This is why 'of agility' is better than 'of power'. But in the case of the bracers, it's 4 agility which is 6 AP + some dodge while 5 AP is 7.5 AP and no dodge. This is why AP enchant is superior.
     
    Blackened Defias Gloves/Boots are BiS, its the same Agility but gives a +10 armor bonus.

    Also Ripsaw how come you go with AP enchants on your bracers? (I don't disagree with you, I see alot of Rogues do it), but you don't have the AP Glove enchants or use the 'Cloaked Shoulders of AP' or use 'Scouting Trousers of AP', is AP only better on the Bracer Enchant specifically or is it better to stack all out if it makes your AP higher.


    the agil chant is 3 agi if i use it i would gain some dodge but id lose 1.5 ap and this is pure ap set but in case of gloves 5 agi is best cuz same as 5 ap and dodge and same goes for other "of power" items and fotl + defias belt is same as defias belt + defias boots since fotl scales same as defias boots and the 10 armor wont do anything for rogue but yeah its "swag" and if u can afford them then its aight same goes for metalworking gloves same as fang gloves but "swag" ive seen u in bgs in a set like this pretty sure ur hp was like 3k in 1-2 weeks xfering to rogue to BH alli for now
    Cheers
     
    Hello allf.2p and vet twinks... Dunno if this is bis or close to but what im trying to do is to use the less heirlooms as possible.
    Is just feels more like vanilla! So this is it :Nyovi @ Frostmane - Community - World of Warcraft
    Also you might see me sometimes with the loom daggers and the wsg ring too cause of outdoors pvp play and also the loom shoulders too. I for sure missing the gloom armor chest piece but i think isnt that much of a loss since i play full haste build.
    Please tell me anything you might see through this and recomend for getting it better! Cheers!!!
     

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