Check out 19s ;)

They are too busy facerollong f2ps with their 9 levels of gear+ability advantage
 
They are too busy facerollong f2ps with their 9 levels of gear+ability advantage

actually 20-29 dmg scaling is 100x better than 19 even f2p vs 29
some 29 bgs are actually more fun than most 19 games on EU games atm..
 
actually 20-29 dmg scaling is 100x better than 19 even f2p vs 29
some 29 bgs are actually more fun than most 19 games on EU games atm..
Most of the EU 19s came to us. They've said us 19s>eu and that in eu 29s is much better than 19s
 
Not as much chest beating and huffing/puffing in the 20-29 bracket as compared to the 10-19. If chest thumping is your bag, then 10-19s are for you.

/cheers
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19s in the current state? No thanks. I like the SC vs RC action too much and I only play mw monk and 19s mw monks are just a joke. +29 players are soo much fun compared to 19s atm. I need those trolls and drama...

And no, I can't say that 19s players are better skillwise than 29s. We have had that proven already but sure there are trash in all brackets. My point: if you are going to compare brackets do it funwise and not skillwise. Wanna rape f2ps instead of "good" 19s games must be the dumbest argument ever to attract ppl to another bracket.
 
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lmao what please explain

Compared to 29s obv..... No expel harm, no dispel, no renewing mist and the list just keep on going. I would hate to rely on surging mist spam for chi in a even bigger oneshotting bracket. -_-
 
I've been tempted to make a similar thread in the 19s section, but have thus far restrained.

The auto-attack bracket needs to put away their disagreement with 29 GF gear and join the better bracket. More abilities, more viable classes, faster pace, better damage/HP scaling, the list goes on.

For a period in late Jan - early Feb, 29s matches were mostly populated with twinks. Jajas and poor f2ps (not vet accounts, who have stats compareable to 29) get discouraged when large numbers of 29s show up.
 
Not only are 19s significantly more balanced and competitive than 29s, but we have a Twinkcup. Games pop nearly 12 hours straight on a regular basis and arenas even moreso.

19s is the Utopia bracket and Bleeding Hollow is the holy land.
 
i played both.. i see 19s are way much better and 20s are MORE fun than 29 but its not even fun to play getting 1 shotted by BM's ^^ so yeah 19s>>>>>>>> 29s
 
Not only are 19s significantly more balanced and competitive than 29s, but we have a Twinkcup. Games pop nearly 12 hours straight on a regular basis and arenas even moreso.

19s is the Utopia bracket and Bleeding Hollow is the holy land.
I agree that they are currently more competitive, and have TC interest pulling serious weight.

I'm interested in your reasoning that they are significantly more balanced than 29s. Everyone else that I've talked with disagrees.
 
I agree that they are currently more competitive, and have TC interest pulling serious weight.

I'm interested in your reasoning that they are significantly more balanced than 29s. Everyone else that I've talked with disagrees.

I don't know if they are more balanced, if not just the fact that their are different and more subtle imbalances. The winning point is the quality activity and competitive atmosphere, not necessarily the balance.
 
I don't know if they are more balanced, if not just the fact that their are different and more subtle imbalances. The winning point is the quality activity and competitive atmosphere, not necessarily the balance.
I'd argue that the winning point would be a competitive atmosphere in a more balanced gameplay environment. You can transfer competition from 19 >29, but can't transfer gameplay from 29 > 19.

What we really face in such a migration is a chicken or the egg dilemma. While "everyone" is at 19, "anyone" will not make the move individually. With the value of the TC rising so quickly, having an additional tourney at 29 could be the driving force in such a migration.
 

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