Mage + hunter

[Mesikämmen]

Frost/arcane mage, haste/sp gearz:
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(xmog doesn't show on armory for some reason so pls don't rate mog D
Also have spidersilk with stam/minor speed and a lot of other gears

Surv hunt:
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Faction changed back when there was no scaling, so no silver-embossed. What's the deal with cobrahn vs silver-embossed, how differently do they scale?

 

[Mesikämmen]

lynx > cobrahns, shadowleather scales better than icescale

and multistrike is really bad

*edit either knothide or peerless stats on chest

Thanks buddy. Multistrike has been pretty nice so far from what I've tried. Gonna run some tests later vs crit/versa, but so far I'm liking what I see with MS.

Yeah you're right bout leg patches, had these on because never used the legs earlier in this patch, never checked what ACTUAL stats they give instead of what the tooltip says. Seems to give 1 AP 2 crit which is god awful lol. changin ->

The patch I have on chest atm seems to give 4 stam, what does knothide/peerless give then? EDIT: nvm was being retarded, it's 3 stam. I'll try peerless out later on.

 

[Jva]

Superior stam should give +3 but doesnt knothide also only give +3 while tooltip says +4?

 

[Mesikämmen]

well ms gives u a ~28% chance for 36% bonus damage while vers increases every dmg by 14%. its almost twice as good without taking the dmg reduction into consideration.

i was under the impression superior stam gave +3, if it actually gives +4 nevermind what i said

You're right, versa gives slightly more damage increase, which adds up over time. However, the amount of burst you're capable of doing when you get some rng with MS combined with crit makes up for some really fat burst. I've been only playing arenas so far really and it has worked well, just one wsg which wasn't really too competitive so couldn't really tell if it's as effective in bgs.

The damage loss on ms vs versa isn't that high however. Take arcane shot for example: 157 to 182 damage, so 169,5 damage on average.

versa:
169,5 + 169,5 x 0,14 = 193,23 damage

ms:
169,5 + 169,5 x 0,2758 x 0,36 = 186,32 damage

Hope my calculations aren't full retarded, been a long since I've attended to any math classes lol. Feel free correcting if it's wrong.

Versa does better damage, yes. But what should be taken in account is that with a bit over 27% ms you're pretty likely to get a couple MS in a row here and there. Explo shot into 3x arcane shot with MS proccing is some serious burst, I'm not gonna make any calculations about this because it's after all just RNG and if you take out RNG from calculations, versa will always win because it's a flat damage increase. Worth noting, however, that with MS you are able to pull out more bursty damage than just stacking pure versatility.

So tldr I agree that you're right about versa pulling out better numbers on average and also gives damage reduction, but MS has more ability for bigdick burst and is a lot of fun playing with.

 

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I would definitely say try the other BoA cloth shoulders because they now give haste. Along with Grandstaff of Jordan because it also gives haste.