FrozenWill
Legend
im curious to see if my helmet enchant with resilience changes to stamina also
AGM is Obsolete in weeks
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LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Not sure, but ill have to check, whatsoever i think its going to be Haste -- since it already has stamina.
Edit : Miss understood , yeah it might, its a fifty fifty for me . GL with it tho!
FrozenWill
Legend
and isnt there that one OP +8 resilience enchant that will prob go to 8 stam lol
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
That might be for tanks only, what if your dps has low HP and hes full agility stacked ? AGM is the option.
Franchi
Legend
the 4176 is an arms warrior going hard for str build just standing around outside org unbuffed.
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LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Rogue might be lower, hunters too. The mark is scaling up to 8 stamina, and agm is 11 stamina (i think 1 stamina = 20 or 17 health right now), and that is 3 more stamina, witch means it gets even better in arenas, the games are quick because of the bracket state. As for BGs, what i say is -- Stam Stacked "Tanks" get to use Mark, and any other dps gets to use AGM, having the mark ready to swap after the use of agm.
Ohai
OG
I'd rather have the AGM in non-arena situations on my rogue or my priest. The ability to use the bubble to get a restealth with dots or bleeds is pretty big versus remaining in the open and getting gibbed.
I haven't seen my AGM purged anywhere near frequently in BGs, only arenas.
edit - this is still great news because my priest doesn't have one and i'd rather not farm it, but to call agm obsolete is a stretch.
I haven't seen my AGM purged anywhere near frequently in BGs, only arenas.
edit - this is still great news because my priest doesn't have one and i'd rather not farm it, but to call agm obsolete is a stretch.
Allybeboba
Legend
Get with the time fellas, BM trinket has been better since 5.4 for some classes.
/cheers
Sweetsidney...
/cheers
Sweetsidney...
FrozenWill
Legend
Is the pvp resilience to stamina in the patch notes somewhere?
Franchi
Legend
True but it adds the 15% hp to your pool, it doesn't just leave you with how much hp you had and increase the size of the pool.
Kinda hard to describe it.
OP
OP
Donteventrii
OG
It lets you absorb overheals into a "shield" until it wears off
Allybeboba
Legend
It is possible but doubtful since the resilience shoulder enchants still indicate resilience.
BM trinkets increase your healthpool as well as give you that health. If your healthpool is 5,000 it will jump to 5,750. You will also gain that 750 health. When the buff ends and your healthpool drops back down to 5,000 you do not lose the 750 health that it granted, you just lose the larger healthpool.
If it did lose the 15% health when the buff fell off and you were at or below 15% health, you would die. This is one of the reasons BM trinkets are so powerful.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
Franchi
Legend
Exactly why I called it a heal in earlier posts, it effectively functions as one.
OP
OP
Donteventrii
OG
You would have died anyway had you not had the bottom floor below the first.
willix
Legend
Source for this?
Neon said:
AGM will still be good for humans who want a second trinket (since MoT is unique). In that setup AGM + MoT will be BiS (assuming this change is real) due to having both options and not having to give up pvp trinket for it. However, AGM is a 15 minute CD on top of an 11 stamina stat stick. At best you're looking at one use per BG or arena (which might be okay for short arena matches since the CD will reset before the next match), putting a 2 minute CD on +15% hp a superior choice for anything longer than a 2 minute match.
Everyone else will probably benefit more from MoT since it feeds itself and has a much shorter CD. If the BoA PVP trinket also has it's resilience swapped to stamina, that will def be BiS over the blue item, and might even make being a Human twink not so good (unless you've already got AGM).
This change + the addition of BoA necks that have on-use heals might make twinking more interesting.
Also, there are a few narrow use situations that make AGM better, but I don't know if they are applicable to most players. Rogues, druids, and night elves can activate AGM before Stealth/Prowl/Smeld to shield from dots in a situation where it's necessary to get out of combat.
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Original
100% GCD Hacker
I don't understand why this is even a controversial topic, tyranny is better in every way. If you think otherwise just use agm and then switch it, if you are arguing that a 15min cd is better than a 2min, thats just idiotic, if you are arguing that the "heal" is better thats just your opinion. However, stop trying to prove agms relevance, tyranny is better, get over it.
