Buying gold / gametime - the end for F2P as we know it?
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PepeLePewPew
Grandfathered
Granted that people play trials for different reasons, here's my take as someone who enjoyed the convenience of hopping on a toon for a bg or 2 then logging off (also, I haven't paid for WoW in ages because I don't consider it worth the money):
Let's see. Log in for 2 or 3 hours and consider yourself lucky if you get to play 1 bg (I am NOT exaggerating), or play in a more active bracket where you have more options as well as the same advantages as everyone else. Costs being equal the choice is obvious for those with old accounts and nothing else to spend the gold on. There is no indication that queue times will improve and no one seems to be suggesting any reason to expect them to.
Personally, whether or not this happens and I take advantage of it, I'm finding less and less incentive to log in to my 20's. So it's not even an either/or. I hate to admit it as much as those denying it, but the bracket as far as bg's are concerned is already dead. Maybe the sad 29's will stick around to gank non-twink trials, but that's not my play-style at all.
Let's see. Log in for 2 or 3 hours and consider yourself lucky if you get to play 1 bg (I am NOT exaggerating), or play in a more active bracket where you have more options as well as the same advantages as everyone else. Costs being equal the choice is obvious for those with old accounts and nothing else to spend the gold on. There is no indication that queue times will improve and no one seems to be suggesting any reason to expect them to.
Personally, whether or not this happens and I take advantage of it, I'm finding less and less incentive to log in to my 20's. So it's not even an either/or. I hate to admit it as much as those denying it, but the bracket as far as bg's are concerned is already dead. Maybe the sad 29's will stick around to gank non-twink trials, but that's not my play-style at all.
Allarien
Grandfathered
Exactly, and that's what I meant with nail in the coffin (for ME, obviously). If people like skirmishes I guess that will still be possible without much of a headache.
babouchka
Legend
Yes they are referring to eve, a successful mmo unlike wildstar.
How is this model combatting gold sellers?
cinderblok
Legend
Players are able to buy in game currency through legitimate and supported channels, ensuring they cannot be scammed in the process. It forces gold sellers to match the value that a player is able to aquire through said legitimate channels, forcing their pricing models and profit margins down and possibly even making it unprofitable to do so at all.
Kincaide
Legend
Over the years whenever someone's knowledge of the bracket has not correlated with the age of their TI account, historically they have all been TI account re-rolls, which is against TOS and constitutes a mandatory automatic ban. I suppose it is possible to gain enough knowledge of this bracket without ever having had an account on TI for three whole years, but, the likelihood, borne out by experience, is very slim.
Having said that, even long time TI veterans aren't seriously talking about this idea (just an idea, mind you) being the "death" of F2P. From your perspective, your position is realistic and my position is denying the inevitable. But from my perspective, my position is realistic and your position is reactionary and alarmist. Plus there are ill-willed P2Ps on this forum who would like nothing more than to sow the seeds of doubt in the future viability of F2P because they pathologically hate everyone who is enjoying the game for free while they continue to pay. Thus, because that exists, we have to be extra vigilant about people sweeping in here with no apparent knowledge of the history of the community and declaring it to be halfway in the grave.
willix
Legend
The limits of... stupidity?
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Don't know If that's a troll bait or not. You might not have known that F2Ps have multiple restrictions and we try to get the most of the game that's limited.
Srs
Legend
Regarding xpac capped accounts: I never understood people that can afford $15 but somehow can't pony up the money for the next xpac (budgets must be real tight). I love twinking, and doing stuff the hard way—don't get me wrong—but it seems like it would be a whole lot easier to have a main to farm stuff with.
That being said, 90s intrigue me.
That being said, 90s intrigue me.
willix
Legend
Nope, it's an honest question. Of course F2Ps are restricted. That's why they are so weak compared to players who actually pay for their account. The stupidity I was referring to is the attitude of these players to ignore their short comings and bang their heads against the P2P wall anyway.
You know, the limits of stupidity?
PepeLePewPew
Grandfathered
and I thought you might have been referring to the stupidity of paying for an account, then playing in a trial bracket to prove how 'smart' you are.
Kincaide
Legend
So in other words, yes it was troll bait. And an insult. Have you even read Shane's new no-tolerance policy?
Aradiel
Legend
Part of what made individual achievements worth doing died when everything became account wide. A Cata level 20 with a sea turtle? Something special, because it was BoP and drew attention. Anyone with one now? Not even worth noticing. The same with the Hallow's End title. I remember getting quite a few people noticing me, getting to talk to me, and helping me out, because of both of those things. Now though, it's so commonplace, and requires minimal effort, that it's completely meaningless.
The same with BoAs. They're kind of a pain to grind out for F2P, although DMF made it a lot easier. People say they like doing things the hard way, but sometimes it's just making things needlessly difficult for yourself. How many people are going to refuse to use the BoA tab because it's too easy? Maybe a few masochists, but it would be silly not to use it. The same applies to not having a linked account, which you can still get for $5 if you click on the in-game upgrade link when you log in to a starter account. You can also still make DKs on new accounts without needing a 55 first. Of course some people refuse to do that, for the sake of $5, even if they have spent more than that on TCG items.
The same with BoAs. They're kind of a pain to grind out for F2P, although DMF made it a lot easier. People say they like doing things the hard way, but sometimes it's just making things needlessly difficult for yourself. How many people are going to refuse to use the BoA tab because it's too easy? Maybe a few masochists, but it would be silly not to use it. The same applies to not having a linked account, which you can still get for $5 if you click on the in-game upgrade link when you log in to a starter account. You can also still make DKs on new accounts without needing a 55 first. Of course some people refuse to do that, for the sake of $5, even if they have spent more than that on TCG items.
Aradiel
Legend
No more or less stupid than paying for pixels. It's all a matter of opinion. That said, how can you be so stupid/trollish as to assume that playing F2P is "an exercise in stupidity?" Why are you even posting here? There really isn't that much of a difference between starter and full accounts. It depends on the class, spec and player. I have seen many instances of people on full accounts getting beaten 1v1 or in groups by F2P.
Reading this, and some of your other recent posts, it's clear that you're either trolling, stupid, or, most likely, both.
converge79
Grandfathered
This message caused me to register for this site though I have visited many times. I share this perpective greatly. I have played wow off and on since vanilla. First time seeing someone else express the same perspective. Its nice to have company.
Kincaide
Legend
That's very sweet! Welcome into our ranks.