Power Torrent v. Jade Spirit.

[NoLemon]

Hi, I've looked in a lot of places but I can't find answers.

I'm currently in the process of making a Frost Mage - what's better, Jade Spirit or Power Torrent? I've seen people with both, but I can't find any solid answers as to uptimes, ICDs and whether Power Torrent is RPPM or not.

Anyone actually done the math?

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Thanks.

 

[Waterworks]

As far as I'm aware Jade Spirit > Power Torrent since it doesn't have an ICD.

Now enjoy your ice lance spam.

 

[Mesikämmen]

Power torrent has an internal cooldown of 45 seconds, procs pretty easily (seems like its ~1/3 or ~33% procrate). So basically, you'll most likely get procs every 45-50 seconds, and duration is 12 seconds. +75 intellect

Jade spirit has no cooldown, and it procs from your first attack most of the time when you engage combat. It's up a lot of the time, a lot more often and more frequently than what you can expect from power torrent. It's only 13 intellect less when it procs, so me and most others would probably prefer to go with the more reliable procrate of jade spirit, rather than a bit more burst damage every 45sec but a lot less intellect meanwhile.

You should however note that you can also play with power torrent as a sole proc weapon, only switching it on about every 45 seconds to get the proc, and as soon as you get the proc you can switch to a staff with +41 frost/shadow sp (enchant weapon - soulfrost), having a huge amount of SP when you have both the +75 intellect proc on, as well as having the static 41sp from current weapon chant Switching weapons however consume a gcd as far as I'm aware, and you actually do have to remember when to swap the weapons. Jade Spirit however is up a lot of the time, so if you don't want to concentrate on switching weapons, it's the go-to enchant definitely.

 

[Allybeboba]

Check Icy Veins, they have done lots of computations on proc rates on MoP enchants.

Sweetsidney. ..

 

[NoLemon]

Power torrent has an internal cooldown of 45 seconds, procs pretty easily (seems like its ~1/3 or ~33% procrate). So basically, you'll most likely get procs every 45-50 seconds, and duration is 12 seconds. +75 intellect

Jade spirit has no cooldown, and it procs from your first attack most of the time when you engage combat. It's up a lot of the time, a lot more often and more frequently than what you can expect from power torrent. It's only 13 intellect less when it procs, so me and most others would probably prefer to go with the more reliable procrate of jade spirit, rather than a bit more burst damage every 45sec but a lot less intellect meanwhile.

You should however note that you can also play with power torrent as a sole proc weapon, only switching it on about every 45 seconds to get the proc, and as soon as you get the proc you can switch to a staff with +41 frost/shadow sp (enchant weapon - soulfrost), having a huge amount of SP when you have both the +75 intellect proc on, as well as having the static 41sp from current weapon chant Switching weapons however consume a gcd as far as I'm aware, and you actually do have to remember when to swap the weapons. Jade Spirit however is up a lot of the time, so if you don't want to concentrate on switching weapons, it's the go-to enchant definitely.

The switching did come to mind, I even thought about Jade Spirit + Power Torrent. Alright, well thanks for the reply, I'll keep it in mind.

 

[Mesikämmen]

The switching did come to mind, I even thought about Jade Spirit + Power Torrent. Alright, well thanks for the reply, I'll keep it in mind.

Oh yeah that's one thing I forgot to mention; as far as I'm aware, switching weapons to stack procs with MoP enchants (jade spirit and dancing steel) does not work. The proc will disappear a bit after you switch to another weapon. Not sure if this affects windsong or some other enchants.

 

[NoLemon]

Oh yeah that's one thing I forgot to mention; as far as I'm aware, switching weapons to stack procs with MoP enchants (jade spirit and dancing steel) does not work. The proc will disappear a bit after you switch to another weapon. Not sure if this affects windsong or some other enchants.

Question,

If you have two staffs with Jade spirit, and you switch them out, they won't stack?

What about if one's enchanted with JS and one's enchanted with say, Black magic? Does that work?

 

[NoLemon]

Bump.

 

[Mesikämmen]

Question,

If you have two staffs with Jade spirit, and you switch them out, they won't stack?

What about if one's enchanted with JS and one's enchanted with say, Black magic? Does that work?

Just got p2p back so tried this, it seems at least power torrent -> jade spirit did indeend work and they stacked You will have to test this yourself with other enchants though!