Guide to F2P PvP

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  • Hi guys, I'm taking a break from WoW so I thought I'd take a leaf out of Kinkaide's book and write a quick guide on most of the classes in the bracket and little tips and tricks I've learned from playing them. I think there will be things in here that even veteran players might not know, but if not, sorry! I'll go class by class and then finish with random thoughts/tips/tricks.

    This might be a while in completion so please hold off on comments for a bit.

    Warlock

    In Battlegrounds, if the other team has rogues, you should almost always be running with succubus out. The reason is because with the voidwalker pet you will force a trinket with the disarm, but you have no guaranteed follow-up to it since a good rogue will kick your fear. A succubus allows you to control the defensive CC by seducing, re-seducing the trinket into a summon voidwalker for a disarm. If the rogue does not trinket the first seduce, cast the summon voidwalker and stop the cast if you see a trinket (avoid kick); if not, then you're casting a fear into the seduce and only disarming if the rogue is a) on you or b) trinkets. Remember how I said the disarm WILL get a trinket? Remember that. In an arena match or if you have a teammate with you on Skype, forcing a trinket might be all you need to do.

    Don't just spam combustion whenever it is up. I see so many warlocks do this. Either a) wait til you have two up and use it to burst someone down or b) use it for the slow and peel your teammates or yourself. You're not doing much more damage with a random combustion thrown into incinerate spam.

    If you're a goblin warlock spec'd into Demonology, practice using your goblin jump in conjunction with your Demonic Leap to get higher and further. Your goal is to abuse z-axis (diagonal, so up and over) where your opponent can't get to you. For example, if you are at the bottom of the Blade's Edge Arena map you can demonic leap from the bottom floor, and goblin jump to either ramp (depending on how you position it). For those of you that don't do arenas, that's the equivalent bottom of Horde tunnel to the bottom tier of "top of tunnel." Both are examples of "z-axis" play that immediately moves you out of danger and gives you superior positioning (use it to get to healers pillaring out of LoS for example).

    Get used to faking with instants. That means that your /stopcasting macro needs to be something like this;

    /stopcasting
    /cast Corruption

    The reason for this is because you don't want to waste your globals. If you spend 5 seconds just faking incinerates or fears you're doing absolutely nothing for five minutes while your opponent is ... well... killing you.

    A great way to fake shadow or fire is to immediately cast a spell of the opposite type after a fake. For example, start casting a fear, fake the cast, and immediately start casting incinerate. Most players who didn't eat the fake will try to pre-kick the next fear or react immediately to the next spell because they assume it is another fear (since most players fake with the same cast). The disadvantage here is that a bad rogue that misses the kick (in other words you did juke him) will land his kick on your opposite school which is still a lockout (so you can't immolate, incinerate or combustion the landed fear OR you can't fear the immolate, combustion etc.). In my mind, if you're really good at juking, don't bother, if you're not, this can help you get the timing.

    Speaking of fake casting, ALTERNATE your juke. Do not always juke right at the start or wait til the end. Good players will remember where you juke if you're also very good (which is the goal right?). You'll notice when watching a long-time arena player like Wizkidone, if he plays against his teammates (meaning one of his usual teammates is healing his opponents or DPS or whatever) he knows what they are going to do and usually tries to counter their playstyle.

    Do you wonder why some warlocks top hunters in damage, and others with the same gear... don't? There's one of two reasons; a) one warlock is playing defensively but in constant pressure positions or b) one lock is multi-dotting and the other is not. Damage doesn't matter in some cases, true, but that's how it works if you want to top those meters. B) is pretty self-explanatory, A) simply means, stay near your healers. Warlocks that are good sometimes get big egos and try to 1v3 in mid and get wrecked. Sure they do some damage before they die, but they spend their time kiting, not doing damage.
     
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    Warlock/Mage/Priest
    Rogue/Druid
    Hunter/Shaman
    Paladin/Warrior
     
    Random Stuff
     
    No need to post anything for paladins I already learned everything I need to know from watching dirty auction videos .
     
    I might change my guide to a Dirtyauction video. Maybe the one where that 70 ganks him in IF over and over on his 19.
     
    Even with the 60% debuff druid healing remains INSANE in terms of hp to healing ratios. When you see geared restoration druids that are spamming their lame rejuv, LEARN TO FOCUS and CC them on sight. They are literally THAT gamebreaking. Now that doesn't mean you need to try to follow some clueless random 1200 HP druid all game if there is a geared hpal running around that actually knows his class.

    - Druids may be the most easymode forgiving braindead and broken healers( all 4 are at this level, tbh) and can easily top charts, but that doesn't mean that somehow in this bracket people can actually suck as a low level resoration druid. In that case use the bg chart scoreboard anf look who is topping the charts and FOCUS Them!!! In most bgs, players have trouble focusing healers, note that a healers' hands glow when they cast their spells for easier identification.

    -While most of the time focusing healers on sight is a GREAT idea, sometimes you just cannot focus a healer if he is staying all the way in the back spamming that shit and your teammates are hell bent on focusing other DPS. In that case, if other enemy DPS are low on health-try to kill them instead of the healer.

    - Use an insignia as EVERY class. It may have made sense in cataclysm to use Double AGM because of the 5 minute trinket and lower health pools, now there is no reason to justify not using one unless you are some sort of a premaded pimped out FC spec with pocket heals.

    -as a priest, if the enemy team has more than one rogue, ALWAYS keep a PW: Shield on you at all times, without shields, rogues can ambush and insta frag you . You are no use dead with full mana.

    -as a warlock don't try to use curse of enfeeblement, its a waste of a GCD, just try to spam your damaging spells/fears.

    -as a mage or a warlock try to find that medium on offensive stats/health on health, where you are most comofortable with and find the healthpool rogues cant easily two shot you.(something like 1900-2000 HP)

    -Don't roll a draenei. They are a useless race as of right now. As alliance you want to roll nelf/worgen/human in that order. Horde, all races are decent, imo.

    -Topping damage or healing charts matters, (it doesn't mean that you can stay in mid whole game bg chart humping , find a medium).. if your team doesn't have the necessary threshold of DPS or heals you just wont win.I can que my griefing crew in and show exactly what i mean.

    -if you are concussion shott'ed as a non druid/hunter, you are most likely going to be put in a ''perma concussion shot lock''. As soon as you are concussion shott'ed get off your mount! Don't try to keep riding, it wont work. Fight back with everything you got to peel the offender off. If you can heal, start healing yourself! If you have swiftness potions, you ''could'' use the trinket and the potion...be wary that most hunters run posthaste.

    - Do not try to cap an Arathi Basin flag while like 3 of your teammates are getting molested by like 4 enemy players right next to you. Most of the time you will be interrupted, and while that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to cap the flag, just make sure to get rid of the opposing team near the flag BEFORE you try to cap it.

    - Geared Restoration druids are some of the biggest counters to hunters and 24s. You can literally shift out of concussive shot and other slows where EVERY other class(except posthaste hunters to) gets owned if they screwed up just a little bit on their postion. You can outheal through ANY f2p hunters burst and you are difficult to silence unless you use regrowth. You also have stealth. You also do not run out of mana as easily as other healers. Just spam the little rejuvenation spell on every friendly target that took damage and learn preemptive healing(doesnt mean you should hump the DPS 24/7 and always spam rejuv) You also have a 40 YD range DoT like a priest to keep rogues from restealthing. Non-restoration druids can offheal aswell and don't run out of mana easily.

    -Rogues are great at griefing your team indirectly. Literally. Now it doesnt mean that even the most skiless idiots cant do 1100 ambush crits or 900 evis crits but 90% of rogues suck in this bracket (not even a exaggeration and it reflects on the charts) when playing as one. Most just sit in stealth. The rogue just doesn't have its toolkit at this level except being the mongoloid 3 button ambush hemo spam evis class.

    -That doesn't mean rogues don't have sap. Sap dps-rape healers. Or vice versa. And for the love of based god don't stay in stealth. Don't ambush players at 10% hp. Instead of trying to ninja a flag, try to stay on their geared healers.

    -as a paladin, you may want to use Speed of Light. Yes it can be purged( honestly, how many people purge in this bracket?). Most of the crucial fights happen at random intervals, and the Pursuit of justice just means you don't use your WoG and if a hunter catches you he may put you in a prema concussion lock because 60% posthaste>30%. Long Arm of the Law requires a GCD and lasts only 3 seconds. That 70% speed can allow you to escape most situations when bubbled.

    - As a paladin don't be afraid to use a trinket on concussion shot or other slows with the Speed of Light combo, or 24 mage novas it can mean a difference between life and death. It does suck getting concussive shotted again by multiple hunters tho and the result is wasting your trinket :(

    -As an elemental shaman, you can come in with 7 stacks of lightning shield ready, just ''harvest'' them off the mobs then join a bg.

    -don't use emotes, don't use titles and try to not wear (those skimpy or whatever outfits) don't use shiny transmogs, turn off your lucky fishing hat (if you have one) , don't wear anything like Mag har tabards, a plain jane guild tabard is the best. If you have a linked account, dont use p2p mounts. Blend in.

    -Healers, most of the time a rogue is the most expendable class. Combined with the players inability to use the class /their toolkit they are just that useless. Even mages are more ''worthy'' of being healed. That doesn't mean you should prioritize on a no name, 1100 hp mage instead of a geared rogue that is actually (for once) attacking healers, so keep that in mind.

    -If you are playing to win or returns/ flag defends or farming, you should premade, and que with hunters, 24s, druids because..well..you will most likely win and get a huge amount of returns.

    some tips, I have nothing to say about warsong
     
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    Even with the 60% debuff druid healing remains INSANE in terms of hp to healing ratios. When you see geared restoration druids that are spamming their lame rejuv, LEARN TO FOCUS and CC them on sight. They are literally THAT gamebreaking. Now that doesn't mean you need to try to follow some clueless random 1200 HP guy all game if there is a geared hpal running around that actually knows his class.

    - Druids may be the most easymode forgiving braindead and broken healers( all 4 are at this level, tbh) and can easily top charts, but that doesn't mean that somehow in this bracket people can actually suck as a low level resoration druid. In that case use the bg chart scoreboard or try to find the geared healer that is topping charts and FOCUS Them!!! In most bgs, players have trouble focusing healers, note that a healers' hands glow when they cast their spells for easier identification.

    -While most of the time focusing healers on sight is a GREAT idea, sometimes you just cannot focus a healer if he is staying all the way in the back spamming that shit and your teammates are hell bent on focusing other DPS. In that case, if other enemy DPS are low on health-try to kill them instead of the healer.

    - Use an insignia as EVERY class. It may have made sense in cataclysm to use Double AGM because of the 5 minute trinket and lower health pools, now there is no reason to justify not using one unless you are some sort of a premaded pimped out FC spec with pocket heals.

    -as a priest, if the enemy team has more than one rogue, ALWAYS keep a PW: Shield on you at all times, without shields, rogues can ambush and insta frag you . You are no use dead with full mana.

    -as a warlock don't try to use curse of enfeeblement, its a waste of a GCD, just try to spam your damaging spells.

    -as a mage or a warlock try to find that medium on offensive stats/health on health, where you are most comofortable with and find the healthpool rogues cant easily two shot you.(something like 1900-2000 HP)

    -Don't roll a draenei. They are a useless race as of right now. As alliance you want to roll nelf/worgen/human in that order. Horde, all races are decent, imo.

    -Topping damage or healing charts matters, (it doesn't mean that you can stay in mid whole game bg chart humping , find a medium).. if your team doesn't have the necessary threshold of DPS or heals you just wont win.I can que my griefing crew in and show exactly what i mean.

    -if you are concussion shott'ed as a non druid/hunter, you are most likely going to be put in a ''perma concussion shot lock''. As soon as you are concussion shott'ed get off your mount! Don't try to keep riding, it wont work. Fight back with everything you got to peel the offender off. If you can heal, start healing yourself! If you have swiftness potions, you ''could'' use the trinket and the potion...be wary that most hunters run posthaste.

    - Do not try to cap an Arathi Basin flag while like 3 of your teammates are getting molested by like 4 enemy players right next to you. Most of the time you will be interrupted, and while that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to cap the flag, just make sure to get rid of the opposing team near the flag BEFORE you try to cap it.

    - Geared Restoration druids are some of the biggest counters to hunters and 24s. You can literally shift out of concussive shot and other slows where EVERY other class gets owned if they screwed up just a little bit on their postion. You can outheal through ANY f2p hunters burst and you are difficult to silence unless you use regrowth. You also have stealth. You also do not run out of mana as easily as other healers. Just spam the little rejuvenation spell on every friendly target that took damage and learn preemptive healing(doesnt mean you should hump the DPS 24/7 and always spam rejuv) You also have a 40 YD range DoT like a priest to keep rogues from restealthing. Non-restoration druids can offheal aswell and don't run out of mana easily.

    -Rogues are great at griefing your team indirectly. Literally. Now it doesnt mean that even the most skiless idiots cant do 1100 ambush crits or 900 evis crits but 90% of rogues suck in this bracket (not even a exaggeration and it reflects on the charts) when playing as one. Most just sit in stealth. The rogue just doesn't have its toolkit at this level except being the mongoloid 3 button ambush hemo spam evis class.

    -That doesn't mean rogues don't have sap. Sap dps-rape healers. Or vice versa. And for the love of based god don't stay in stealth. Don't ambush players at 10% hp. Instead of trying to ninja a flag, try to stay on their geared healers.

    -as a paladin, you may want to use Speed of Light. Yes it can be purged( honestly, how many people purge in this bracket?). Most of the crucial fights happen at random intervals, and the Pursuit of justice just means you don't use your WoG and if a hunter catches you he may put you in a prema concussion lock because 60% posthaste>30%. Long Arm of the Law requires a GCD and lasts only 3 seconds. That 70% speed can allow you to escape most situations when bubbled.

    - As a paladin don't be afraid to use a trinket on concussion shot or other slows with the Speed of Light combo, or 24 mage novas it can mean a difference between life and death. It does suck getting concussive shotted again by multiple hunters tho and the result is wasting your trinket :(

    -As an elemental shaman, you can come in with 7 stacks of lightning shield ready, just ''harvest'' them off the mobs then join a bg.

    -don't use emotes, don't use titles and try to not wear (those skimpy or whatever outfits) don't use shiny transmogs, turn off your lucky fishing hat (if you have one) , don't wear anything like Mag har tabards, a plain jane guild tabard is the best. If you have a linked account, dont use p2p mounts. Blend in.

    -Healers, most of the time a rogue is the most expendable class. Combined with the players inability to use the class /their toolkit they are just that useless. Even mages are more ''worthy'' of being healed. That doesn't mean you should prioritize on a no name, 1100 hp warlock instead of a geared rogue, so keep that in mind.

    -If you are playing to win or returns/ flag defends or farming, you should premade, and que with hunters, 24s, druids because..well..you will most likely win and get a huge amount of returns.

    some tips, I have nothing to say about warsong

    i'll read this when i have a few days off work...
     
    I picked the funniest out of context - for future generations.
    Sap dps-rape healers. Or vice versa.
    [...]
    Topping damage or healing charts matters
    [...]
    as a paladin, you may want to use Speed of Light.
    [...]
    don't use shiny transmogs
    [...]
    Healers, most of the time a rogue is the most expendable class
    [...]
    get a huge amount of returns.
    [...]
    I have nothing to say about warsong
     
    Not everything there is nonsense guys... Some of them are true or not terrible ideas ^_^. Exceptions of course.



    Rogues are great at griefing your team indirectly. Literally. ... Most just sit in stealth.

    While most of the time focusing healers on sight is a GREAT idea, sometimes you just cannot focus a healer if he is staying all the way in the back spamming that shit and your teammates are hell bent on focusing other DPS. In that case, if other enemy DPS are low on health-try to kill them instead of the healer.

    Use an insignia as EVERY class.

    Blend in.
     
    I'm confused why you even posted tips in my thread? Especially such drivel like those... Anyway.. I'll get back to this this weekend now that I finally have some time off from work.
     
    in this bracket rogues just don't have their tools, they do a tremendous amount of damage and have some interrupts..but for some reason people just cant grasp the 2 button class. Most sit in stealth and ambush 20% hp people, so all in all rogue is the most disposable class out there

    -focusing the DPS instead of the healer-this is what I mean. Lets say 4vs 4 are duking it out and the enemy team consists of 3 hunters and a druid healer ...casting that lame shit in the back...you cant get to him because hes got hunters protecting him. But your friendly DPS are trying to kill a hunter and they got a hunter to like 500 HP. So focus the 500 HP hunter so it can be 3vs4...

    blend in ..yeah with my scrub transmog and scrub mounts Brazilians will most likely focus someone with a shiny transmog ..it still doesn't help as much vs more experienced players but vs Brazilians it helps tremendously.

    And mindlessly throwing your body at an objective expecting to die is not skillful at all. Ten ppl who play and help each other but lose are better than the mindless fools that keep trying to get the flag but keep dying
     

    As a dedicated healer that has the ability to decurse, I dispel curse of enfeeblement each and every time I can. Curse of Enfeeblement is a pretty serious debuff, especially if your team is using the mid-clash strat and is bunched up.
    That is why warlocks are one of the great "support" classes. They have many utility spells that other classes do not.
    /cheers

    Sweetsidney
     

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