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So I tried returning the flag today in the gulch, FC was a protection paladin. I attacked him, it must have hit maybe ¼ of his health. He then slooooowly turns around, and literally globals me in 2 hits, TWO HITS. What gives? What is this garbage of low level pvp?
avengers shield hits you for 790 holy” critical
“holy wrath hits you for 577 holy” critical
Used to be OKAY. Tanks could not do much damage they were just “bulletsponges” or “threatholders” and absorbed damage. Sure they had lots of cooldowns compared to their dps brethren but they. Just. Couldn’t. Do. Much. Damage. I guess now tanks evolved into these pseudo-dps type all around specs which fulfill every role by some healing, massive damage and mitigation cooldowns and just huuuuuge burst damage.
So as damage dealing, tank specs do about 3x the damage of “DPS specs” . Prot warrior/paladin/brew monk is out of control in low level. Its demotivating to see higher numbers as blood then frost.
Low level paladins are also a thing I have at. I think when you click the “Paladin” class it means you name your toon “faceroll”,or better yet” bullshit wtfhappened yoloswag class” and go on with it until early 80s
Protection paladin
Avengers shield
It is now unlocked at level 10, also silences with a blanket silence. BLizz employee must have been on crack because..silences..level 10..level 10 . Don’t remember any blanket silencing abilities unlocking at level 10. I don’t think it slows you now but there is a glyph for it. Knocks off about ¾ of health even of fully Boa targets. PS it also bounces around and hits 3 targets. Insta cast 30 yard range. Polymorph and pyrobast that ^^..o wait. SILENCED~!
Holy Wrath
Also unlocked at level 20 which is quite early on. Does not share a GCD with some abilties . Also hits for about ½ health on an average “DPS” class and debuffs with this weird homogenized “weakened blows”
Cleanse
Removes everything…sure, low level pallies had Purify as holy. It only removed 1 poison and 1 disease off you. I think at one point the devs said…aaaa ,fuck it , just make it cleanse everything because paladins weren’t one-shotting in battlegrounds and were not OP enough
Lay on hands no longer drains all your mana, Hammers of justice now stun for their full 6 sec ond duration even with low level pallies . Crusader Strike is now unlocked at level one. To top this all off you have uber-heals and immunites which have five and 10 minute cooldowns. Double with clemency .How can one even die on such a class
Movement speed increases
You can LoS other classes, incase you fucked up, because you are a paladin, or because you have very little brain cells but…you can still los because….aaa fuck you, as the blizz paladin employee said it. Yep, that’s right. He said “fuck you” and gave paladins an array of abilities at low level
WarriorI also have beef with low level warriors but no so much as with pallies due to them not being able to heal but they are still nearly unkillable dps machines
Shield slam devastate revenge. What the fuck happened with the abilities getting tossed around like the merry go round. Are you kidding me revenge unlocked at 26 and 1 second GcD. This is just outright bullshit.
Shield Slam[/B]-it’s a 6 second cooldown Ambush, which requires no positioning(e.g being behind), no thoughtout plan, and it procs a ton of shit. Also gives lots of rage. Surprised what the interrupt part is gone they should have kept it for uber ownage because low level warriors aren’t op enough
[B]Devastate[/B]-now comes with free applications of Sunder Armor. Unlocked at level 26. Does about as much damage as shield slam, which is ½ of an averadge DPS’s health pool. So. Charge, shield slam. Dead. Rinse and repeat.
Revenge-now just on a 8 second cooldown, usable at any time. Uhh, shouldn’t you at least parry to get a revenge? Its called a “revenge” afterall, shouldn’t something be a prerequisite first...na-aa, the only thing you are avenging is the 8 second cooldown the blizz employee put there or the GCDS. They should remove them altogether so I can make a Swifty macro /Cast Shield slam /Cast Revenge /Cast devastate
Most twinks know what front loaded instant damage is the key compared to having build up charges or stacking dots.
These classes don’t need setting anything up, they don’t need to build up their “resources”. They DEPLETE resources, meaning they start out with them FULL and get to use them up instead. Then wait until those abilities or resources come off CD.
These tank classes also come with a boatload of defensive O-SHIT MASH BUTTON abilities
So what the fuck is this game design I should be able to beat a class at any spec and just about at any level, but instead I cant even pull a cast off or die from rogues in 1-3 hits. So is Blizzard telling to wait until 90 to play, because 1-89 does not matter? Wait a minute, 1-89 is 90% of the game! So,from what I am seeing is I shouldn’t play pvp at all? I see why people make all these quitting posts now, and what garbage the game has evolved to. Makes sense, because yeah. I am pissed.
So you want to level as a damage dealer until mid 80s? Too bad. Tank specs are better then any other 2 trash specs
tank SHOULD NOT fill a role of a DPS+tank at the same time, when I clicked on my role as DPS I thought I should outdps the ''tank'' whose role is to take damage. When tanks dominate DPS charts in 5 mans, something is clearly wrong.
So wait, let me pause for a moment and get this straight. I am a fucking tank, then I am a fucking dps, then I do more damage then a dps, but then I am a tank at the same time. Da fawk?
Ask these questions yourself. What is even the point of the DPS role?
Wait, same happened at the beginning of mists when there was no cap on vengeance. Mid-level tanks were destroying faction bosses and calling DPS bad names because they were “not dpsing enough”.
Calling foul, either this is a big conspiracy for us to play tanks to lower the queues, or Blizzard has gone full retard. Which is unsurprisingly nothing new. I suppose might as well get rid of all DPS and just all go tanks. That’s the only logical solution
I think I am going to roll 6 trial protection pallies and park them under the graveyard and see how many kills I can amass and prove how broken this class actually is at low level
rfjjrjkrjkrtjtrjwqfewjrasasdafk
JOINING THE TRASHADINS
Signed, another Protection paladin. Might level to 70 I heard it was even more faceroll
PS I am not paying for this anymore my sub ran out a few months ago and I didn’t want to renew since blizz are douches and aren’t releasing any content but I might just to post screenshots
Quoting others on forums-by Dashero
1-89 Tanks should not do more DPS then DPS - Forums - World of Warcraft
“Yea, sorry blizzard, a prot warrior/prot pally should not have the ability to do more damage then dps while being 5x harder to kill. That is not balanced.
Also wanted to add vengeance is a dumb mechanic, I can only assume it was created to further homogenize the game.
Vengeance - AKA mechanic for bad tanks who can't hold threat.
Now we have tanks beating dps in damage assuming equal gear.
You may as well spec in 4 tanks and a healer since they have superior dps until high level.
I am talking about PVE as well as PVP were a Avenging Shield can hit for 750 damage (As much as a b-stab with 100% armor penetration while hitting 3 targets + Silencing them, at 45.
And yea, low level PVP does matter. Tanks shouldn't run around doing 5 bagillion dps.
TLDR: WHEN YOU GO A DEFENSIVE SPEC you should not be OUTDPSING a DPS in EQUAL GEAR.
*THIS DOES NOT APPLY past high level....when dps finally overtakes tanking (with the stupid vengeance mechanic)”
“DPS roles should be doing the Most Damage the Moment they Choose to Go DPS Spec. A Player shouldnt have to wait for good gear in order to do damage better than a tank. the DPS role is specificly there for DPS and DPS should be number 1 damage contribution from the word go. the moment a player chooses a DPS role, that should mean DPS do most of the Damage. Yet tanks are places instantly a number 1 for DPS damage the moment role choice is available (level 10)
Its un reasonable for a DPS to have to wait for the best gear stats in order to beat DPS compared to a tank. A DPS role exists because it means do the most damage... Yet the moment a pole choice is available DPS roles are lower than Tank roles...
DPS should be number 1 the moment role choice is available... Relentless of Gear Stats, DPS roles exist to do more Damage that the other roles... Why should a DPS role have to wait till they are higher level and rely and the best gear possible in order to beat a tanks DPS... DPS roles exist because they mean DO more Damage than the other then roles. Dps roles should be number one the moment they choose DPS”
Lau, Why DO TANKS do more Damage than DPS.. Sort this Out.. - Forums - World of Warcraft . I guess from the annals of eu
avengers shield hits you for 790 holy” critical
“holy wrath hits you for 577 holy” critical
Used to be OKAY. Tanks could not do much damage they were just “bulletsponges” or “threatholders” and absorbed damage. Sure they had lots of cooldowns compared to their dps brethren but they. Just. Couldn’t. Do. Much. Damage. I guess now tanks evolved into these pseudo-dps type all around specs which fulfill every role by some healing, massive damage and mitigation cooldowns and just huuuuuge burst damage.
So as damage dealing, tank specs do about 3x the damage of “DPS specs” . Prot warrior/paladin/brew monk is out of control in low level. Its demotivating to see higher numbers as blood then frost.
Low level paladins are also a thing I have at. I think when you click the “Paladin” class it means you name your toon “faceroll”,or better yet” bullshit wtfhappened yoloswag class” and go on with it until early 80s
Protection paladin
Avengers shield
It is now unlocked at level 10, also silences with a blanket silence. BLizz employee must have been on crack because..silences..level 10..level 10 . Don’t remember any blanket silencing abilities unlocking at level 10. I don’t think it slows you now but there is a glyph for it. Knocks off about ¾ of health even of fully Boa targets. PS it also bounces around and hits 3 targets. Insta cast 30 yard range. Polymorph and pyrobast that ^^..o wait. SILENCED~!
Holy Wrath
Also unlocked at level 20 which is quite early on. Does not share a GCD with some abilties . Also hits for about ½ health on an average “DPS” class and debuffs with this weird homogenized “weakened blows”
Cleanse
Removes everything…sure, low level pallies had Purify as holy. It only removed 1 poison and 1 disease off you. I think at one point the devs said…aaaa ,fuck it , just make it cleanse everything because paladins weren’t one-shotting in battlegrounds and were not OP enough
Lay on hands no longer drains all your mana, Hammers of justice now stun for their full 6 sec ond duration even with low level pallies . Crusader Strike is now unlocked at level one. To top this all off you have uber-heals and immunites which have five and 10 minute cooldowns. Double with clemency .How can one even die on such a class
Movement speed increases
You can LoS other classes, incase you fucked up, because you are a paladin, or because you have very little brain cells but…you can still los because….aaa fuck you, as the blizz paladin employee said it. Yep, that’s right. He said “fuck you” and gave paladins an array of abilities at low level
WarriorI also have beef with low level warriors but no so much as with pallies due to them not being able to heal but they are still nearly unkillable dps machines
Shield slam devastate revenge. What the fuck happened with the abilities getting tossed around like the merry go round. Are you kidding me revenge unlocked at 26 and 1 second GcD. This is just outright bullshit.
Shield Slam[/B]-it’s a 6 second cooldown Ambush, which requires no positioning(e.g being behind), no thoughtout plan, and it procs a ton of shit. Also gives lots of rage. Surprised what the interrupt part is gone they should have kept it for uber ownage because low level warriors aren’t op enough
[B]Devastate[/B]-now comes with free applications of Sunder Armor. Unlocked at level 26. Does about as much damage as shield slam, which is ½ of an averadge DPS’s health pool. So. Charge, shield slam. Dead. Rinse and repeat.
Revenge-now just on a 8 second cooldown, usable at any time. Uhh, shouldn’t you at least parry to get a revenge? Its called a “revenge” afterall, shouldn’t something be a prerequisite first...na-aa, the only thing you are avenging is the 8 second cooldown the blizz employee put there or the GCDS. They should remove them altogether so I can make a Swifty macro /Cast Shield slam /Cast Revenge /Cast devastate
Most twinks know what front loaded instant damage is the key compared to having build up charges or stacking dots.
These classes don’t need setting anything up, they don’t need to build up their “resources”. They DEPLETE resources, meaning they start out with them FULL and get to use them up instead. Then wait until those abilities or resources come off CD.
These tank classes also come with a boatload of defensive O-SHIT MASH BUTTON abilities
So what the fuck is this game design I should be able to beat a class at any spec and just about at any level, but instead I cant even pull a cast off or die from rogues in 1-3 hits. So is Blizzard telling to wait until 90 to play, because 1-89 does not matter? Wait a minute, 1-89 is 90% of the game! So,from what I am seeing is I shouldn’t play pvp at all? I see why people make all these quitting posts now, and what garbage the game has evolved to. Makes sense, because yeah. I am pissed.
So you want to level as a damage dealer until mid 80s? Too bad. Tank specs are better then any other 2 trash specs
tank SHOULD NOT fill a role of a DPS+tank at the same time, when I clicked on my role as DPS I thought I should outdps the ''tank'' whose role is to take damage. When tanks dominate DPS charts in 5 mans, something is clearly wrong.
So wait, let me pause for a moment and get this straight. I am a fucking tank, then I am a fucking dps, then I do more damage then a dps, but then I am a tank at the same time. Da fawk?
Ask these questions yourself. What is even the point of the DPS role?
Wait, same happened at the beginning of mists when there was no cap on vengeance. Mid-level tanks were destroying faction bosses and calling DPS bad names because they were “not dpsing enough”.
Calling foul, either this is a big conspiracy for us to play tanks to lower the queues, or Blizzard has gone full retard. Which is unsurprisingly nothing new. I suppose might as well get rid of all DPS and just all go tanks. That’s the only logical solution
I think I am going to roll 6 trial protection pallies and park them under the graveyard and see how many kills I can amass and prove how broken this class actually is at low level
rfjjrjkrjkrtjtrjwqfewjrasasdafk
JOINING THE TRASHADINS
Signed, another Protection paladin. Might level to 70 I heard it was even more faceroll
PS I am not paying for this anymore my sub ran out a few months ago and I didn’t want to renew since blizz are douches and aren’t releasing any content but I might just to post screenshots
Quoting others on forums-by Dashero
1-89 Tanks should not do more DPS then DPS - Forums - World of Warcraft
“Yea, sorry blizzard, a prot warrior/prot pally should not have the ability to do more damage then dps while being 5x harder to kill. That is not balanced.
Also wanted to add vengeance is a dumb mechanic, I can only assume it was created to further homogenize the game.
Vengeance - AKA mechanic for bad tanks who can't hold threat.
Now we have tanks beating dps in damage assuming equal gear.
You may as well spec in 4 tanks and a healer since they have superior dps until high level.
I am talking about PVE as well as PVP were a Avenging Shield can hit for 750 damage (As much as a b-stab with 100% armor penetration while hitting 3 targets + Silencing them, at 45.
And yea, low level PVP does matter. Tanks shouldn't run around doing 5 bagillion dps.
TLDR: WHEN YOU GO A DEFENSIVE SPEC you should not be OUTDPSING a DPS in EQUAL GEAR.
*THIS DOES NOT APPLY past high level....when dps finally overtakes tanking (with the stupid vengeance mechanic)”
“DPS roles should be doing the Most Damage the Moment they Choose to Go DPS Spec. A Player shouldnt have to wait for good gear in order to do damage better than a tank. the DPS role is specificly there for DPS and DPS should be number 1 damage contribution from the word go. the moment a player chooses a DPS role, that should mean DPS do most of the Damage. Yet tanks are places instantly a number 1 for DPS damage the moment role choice is available (level 10)
Its un reasonable for a DPS to have to wait for the best gear stats in order to beat DPS compared to a tank. A DPS role exists because it means do the most damage... Yet the moment a pole choice is available DPS roles are lower than Tank roles...
DPS should be number 1 the moment role choice is available... Relentless of Gear Stats, DPS roles exist to do more Damage that the other roles... Why should a DPS role have to wait till they are higher level and rely and the best gear possible in order to beat a tanks DPS... DPS roles exist because they mean DO more Damage than the other then roles. Dps roles should be number one the moment they choose DPS”
Lau, Why DO TANKS do more Damage than DPS.. Sort this Out.. - Forums - World of Warcraft . I guess from the annals of eu
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Gonna make some popcorn and wait for lolz.
