best flag carrier 5.4

killwill

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im thinking hunter is best flag carrier in 5.4

1- Fastest class in game except monks which is not f2p.
2- Removing every movement impairing effects whith 20 sec cd.
3- Detecting enemies around, easy to find good path till home base.
4- Anti rogue class. rogues will less likely attack you or really carefully.
5- Has a pet also. Can be spider, bat etc with cc.
6- Good armor.
7- Good cc abilities.
8- If its alone wil survive more than a prot warrior in most situation.

with 5.4 what i see in bgs is. most p2p classes are 1 shotting people. paladins and warriors are really slow. even with mitigation or defensive cds on both classes. they have diffuculties to pass middle.

a hunter supported by a resto druid will pass middle easly than any other class.

what i see till now also. with the amount of hunters / rogues around. druids are having diffuculties to kite / pass etc.

lets discuss.
 
What about... druid :eek:

1- Fastest class in game except monks which is not f2p.
2- Removing every movement impairing effects (need global cd)
3- moonfirespam rogues to keep em out of stealth
4- Anti rogue class. pop displacer beast/roots/wild charge/moonfire
5- Has no pet, but can switch into cuddly creatures of nature
6- Good armor.
7- Good cc abilities.
8- If its alone wil survive more than a prot warrior in most situation.
 
killwill said:
im thinking hunter is best flag carrier in 5.4

1- Fastest class in game except monks which is not f2p.
2- Removing every movement impairing effects whith 20 sec cd.
3- Detecting enemies around, easy to find good path till home base.
4- Anti rogue class. rogues will less likely attack you or really carefully.
5- Has a pet also. Can be spider, bat etc with cc.
6- Good armor.
7- Good cc abilities.
8- If its alone wil survive more than a prot warrior in most situation.

with 5.4 what i see in bgs is. most p2p classes are 1 shotting people. paladins and warriors are really slow. even with mitigation or defensive cds on both classes. they have diffuculties to pass middle.

a hunter supported by a resto druid will pass middle easly than any other class.

what i see till now also. with the amount of hunters / rogues around. druids are having diffuculties to kite / pass etc.

lets discuss.
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It's discussion guys, lets keep it normal.
In my opinion protection paladin is one of the best FC classes in 5.4. why?
Very fast (faster than mounts while on speed of light)
High armor and mitigation like parry.
Selfhealing
Ability to detect rogues and druids.
Lay on hands - OH SHIT button.
When a rogue opens on me I can cleanse and escape. Paladins can survive initial burst of P2P rogues, which hunters lack (even if, they gonna die off poison)
Ability to use a controlled 6 sec stun makes my CC more dependable than warriors' charge.
Ability to use mail armor and plate looms combined with shield gives me ton of armor that hunters or druids lack.
Long-range silence helps to counter opponent's offense healers.

This is my opinion.
 
Crystalpall said:
It's discussion guys, lets keep it normal.
In my opinion protection paladin is one of the best FC classes in 5.4. why?
Very fast (faster than mounts while on speed of light)
High armor and mitigation like parry.
Selfhealing
Ability to detect rogues and druids.
Lay on hands - OH SHIT button.
When a rogue opens on me I can cleanse and escape. Paladins can survive initial burst of P2P rogues, which hunters lack (even if, they gonna die off poison)
Ability to use a controlled 6 sec stun makes my CC more dependable than warriors' charge.
Ability to use mail armor and plate looms combined with shield gives me ton of armor that hunters or druids lack.
Long-range silence helps to counter opponent's offense healers.

This is my opinion.
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guardian druid resto druid combo = bis in terms of duos

the combined mobility along with the speed and largest health pool available with the most reduction from armor makes druid tops. a f2p stacking stam can hit pretty high numbers then drop standard and mark of tyrany for easily over 4k health .
 
in terms of best non healer fc support . i would say hunter without a doupt .
yes a ele sham can storm away or a frost mage can insta freeze but only a hunter standing on druid is going to be able to spot the rogues before they open and get of a key shot eliminating their burst.
 
Crystalpall said:
It's discussion guys, lets keep it normal.
In my opinion protection paladin is one of the best FC classes in 5.4. why?
Very fast (faster than mounts while on speed of light)
High armor and mitigation like parry.
Selfhealing
Ability to detect rogues and druids.
Lay on hands - OH SHIT button.
When a rogue opens on me I can cleanse and escape. Paladins can survive initial burst of P2P rogues, which hunters lack (even if, they gonna die off poison)
Ability to use a controlled 6 sec stun makes my CC more dependable than warriors' charge.
Ability to use mail armor and plate looms combined with shield gives me ton of armor that hunters or druids lack.
Long-range silence helps to counter opponent's offense healers.

This is my opinion.
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Very fast (faster than mounts while on speed of light) purgeable
High armor and mitigation like parry. less than prot warrior
Selfhealing very low
Ability to detect rogues and druids. so does all other classes
Lay on hands - OH SHIT button. works once
When a rogue opens on me I can cleanse and escape. Paladins can survive initial burst of P2P rogues, which hunters lack (even if, they gonna die off poison) yes but most other classes can also survive that inital burst.
Ability to use a controlled 6 sec stun makes my CC more dependable than warriors' charge. charge has less cd and can gives u mobility even after 4 stacks at which point sol is useless
Ability to use mail armor and plate looms combined with shield gives me ton of armor that hunters or druids lack. so can prot warrior
Long-range silence helps to counter opponent's offense healers. that shouldnt be on top of ur "to do list" when FCing
 
my opinion is guardian druid, not for solo fcing ofc but with a healer, guardian has the most armor and health pool a fair amount of dodge roots stuns more roots dots off heals and there quick quick quick and and and there fluffy
only downside is there damage isnt amazing unless they go kitty so they need a dps deffing them which is maybe less important for a prot pally or warior
 
Flag carrying and flag holding are two very different things.

I was actually a little disappointed, I thought this thread was going to be about specific people in the bracket that are great FC's,

Despite all the talk above, at least once you owe it to yourself to watch [MENTION=19874]Watergun[/MENTION] carry the flag. Almost inspired me to start up a mage.
 
Mesikämmen said:
What about... druid :eek:

1- Fastest class in game except monks which is not f2p.
2- Removing every movement impairing effects (need global cd)
3- moonfirespam rogues to keep em out of stealth
4- Anti rogue class. pop displacer beast/roots/wild charge/moonfire
5- Has no pet, but can switch into cuddly creatures of nature
6- Good armor.
7- Good cc abilities.
8- If its alone wil survive more than a prot warrior in most situation.
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Exactly Druid no doubt.
 
I am just guessing but wouldn't Windwalker monks be good? They have that serpent kick (forgot the name) and the rolls and they can spec the speed buff? The serpent kick of a roof goes far ? Just assuming :)
 
Being faster helps to get to your support team faster, if they're controlling mid / exits, but too many FCs then outpace their support team and run, alone, straight into enemy respawn. Knowing when to be fast and when to be smart is pretty important.
 
Kincaide said:
I was actually a little disappointed, I thought this thread was going to be about specific people in the bracket that are great FC's,
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Exactly what I thought

OT: I think its the class you can play the best. Maybe hunters have more movement than hpala, but I prefer fcing as hpala because its what I've been doing for 1.5 years
 
Snowjobs said:
guardian druid resto druid combo = bis in terms of duos

the combined mobility along with the speed and largest health pool available with the most reduction from armor makes druid tops. a f2p stacking stam can hit pretty high numbers then drop standard and mark of tyrany for easily over 4k health .
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quit irl and do something with wow for once bbkakes
 
With healing reduced i'd say the most viable class for FC-ing is prot warrior with double charge.
Has armor, shield, mobility, highest survivability with Unwavering Sentinel,Shield Block, Defensive Stance.

Hunters and druids are paper tanks regardless of their moblity,healing or CC. So no use even going there seing all the CC and mobilty can't help you if you're a two shot. Now FC escorting is another story where DPS classes like Mages, Hunters and Locks are indeed viable for peeling.

Also when a rogue openes on you, if you're a warrior you spend most of your time thinking about facing your front to him....while palas think about their 5 abilites what to use as they are raped by a rogue on their backs... ( atleast from what i have seen in my experience )
 
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