dattwinklife
Legend
is this bracket as bursty as the others? dont wanna to grind out a healer and it be a waste of time
hows dmg?
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shanker
OG
-70 vs 70 no
-70 vs 71 yes
70's are pretty much thrown back to BC stats, but have highest gear scaling in 70-74 bracket , my 70 rogue got robbed of over 240-300+ agi depending on gear set and alot of AP from enchants/prof that were cut
71's gain full values of all WOTLK ench/gems with only a slight gear scaling redcution in BGs, at 71 imo you will be fine especially as a priest
unless there are gamebreaking talents at 72 or higher, i would not go to that level or higher
at 74 your gear does not scale in BGs at all
i did some SS's of gear scaling in BGs leveling 4 DKs thru nothing but BGs after 5.3. haven't heard about any changes in gear scaling in 5.4 so much of it would still apply
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f28...killed-74-twinks-70-gear-killer-75-btw-49954/
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Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
Hmm, just curious, what is the point of being level 71 when you're not gonna get any arena pops? Since everyone is essentially level 74 in battlegrounds anyway. Would you really give up arenas to have better gems in duels and world pvp? Or am I missing something?
Joaxx
Legend
I'm curious as to whether it would now be better to gem gear with BC epic gems for arenas at 70.
For example, Solid Majestic Zircon is scaled to +12 stamina and Solid Empyrean Sapphire has + 15 stamina. Obviously, you'd be gimping yourself in battlegrounds, 2 sets of gear maybe?
For example, Solid Majestic Zircon is scaled to +12 stamina and Solid Empyrean Sapphire has + 15 stamina. Obviously, you'd be gimping yourself in battlegrounds, 2 sets of gear maybe?
Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
Yes, you would need two gear sets to be optimized for both arenas and battlegrounds. Especially when you take into account the old JC-only TBC gems that are now BiS in arena thanks to 5.4.
Crimson Sun - The Consortium - Revered
Don Julio's Heart - The Consortium - Revered
Kailee's Rose - The Sha'tar - Honered
Falling Star - Lower City - Revered
Blood of Amber - The Sha'tar - Revered
Stone of Blades - Keepers of Time - Revered
Facet of Eternity - Keepers of Time - Honered
Each of them are unique and require some kind of TBC reputation to optain. Kind of weird that int users get two +12 gems while strength users don't get any.
And no, they do not scale down to +10, +15 or +20 respectively, as these gems have existed and given the same stats since TBC.
I kind of like how you need the reputations to be BiS.
ZaXXe
Legend
Since these gems are Unique-Equipped, the stat boost is so minimal that I think pretty much nobody is going to farm a second gear set for these gems, even if it would be BiS.
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Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
You're forgetting the first reason a second gearset was suggested.
Solid Empyrean Sapphire vs Solid Majestic Zircon.
The majestic zircon is 12 stamina in arenas, and 30 stamina in battlegrounds, while the empyrean sapphire is 15 stamina regardless.
So let's take my hunter as an example, only taking the stamina gems into account.
I'm running with 6 pure stamina gems. If I was to use the optimal battleground gems, which would be six Solid Majestic Zircons, in an arena, that would be 12*6 = 72 stamina.
Now let's look at how much stamina I would have using the optimal arena gems. That would be five Solid Empyrean Sapphires and one Falling Star.
15*5+18 = 93 stamina
Now imagine the difference for a full stamina stacked healer.
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Aerandielle
Legend
Probably has to do with the change to +spelldamage and +healing into pure int.
Interesting about the TBC gems. Has anyone done any testing on enchants yet, wonder if lower level enchants might scale to a higher value somehow.
Dreams
fastest shadowstep in the west
Gems and enchants don't scale up, only down to your level. If the gem/enchant was already intended for your level then nothing happens.
Joaxx
Legend
I can't seem to make a new thread since my post count is too low, so I'll ask here.
With the changes to the way gems scale in 5.4, what is now the best option for discipline priests?
Stacking PvP resillience does not seem very good anymore as it doesn't really give much for the amount of gem sockets you have to dedicate to it. The next obvious option would be to gem for stamina, but how about stacking haste? Haste gems still seem very strong and 50% spell haste is very much achievable.
With the changes to the way gems scale in 5.4, what is now the best option for discipline priests?
Stacking PvP resillience does not seem very good anymore as it doesn't really give much for the amount of gem sockets you have to dedicate to it. The next obvious option would be to gem for stamina, but how about stacking haste? Haste gems still seem very strong and 50% spell haste is very much achievable.
Zatox
OG
im not much of a priest but I would assume full stamina, just like last patch. Use the haste tinker on gloves for your burst healing/damage
Joaxx
Legend
Thanks mate.
Also slightly relevant to this thread and I'm not sure if it is common knowledge, but level 70s are able to queue with level 71-74 players in arenas as long as XP is enabled for all characters. Was this the case last season? (I've not played in this bracket for a very long time). I was getting into arenas on my 71 mage (accidentally dinged) with non-scaled gems (+40 haste Quick King's Amber) partnered my 70 warlock friend with scaled down gems (+12 stamina Solid Majestic Zircons).
Zatox
OG
Last patch that wasnt possible. Hopefully its just a bug.