Feral druids and mages?

yes
 

Well, please be more specific, im asking if they're good. Im kind of confused cause you could just be saying yes as in ferals good and ignoring frost, or they both could be good, or just frost is good?
 
Ferals is in an alright spot I guess since its a hybrid, but most druids play either balance or resto, mages is really bad vs anything that can heal, even with full pvp power you lack the damage to kill people in 1 deep before they heal up, best thing ive found to do is infernoblast -> dragons breath -> RoF -> pyroblast(or fireball if you got instant cast, since your deep wont come off gcd before RoF breaks) -> deep -> pyro spam -> blanket silence into a shatter, and if the target isnt dead by then, you can pretty much give up, also try getting tazik and synapse, even though tazik only hit like 2.5k it still adds abit of damage
 
best thing ive found to do is infernoblast -> dragons breath -> RoF -> pyroblast(or fireball if you got instant cast, since your deep wont come off gcd before RoF breaks) -> deep -> pyro spam -> blanket silence into a shatter
best thing ive found:
infernoblast ->1-2x spellsteal (or slow vs meele) -> breath -> sheep + infernoblast at the end of sheepcast -> wait 4 sec(rebuffing or spellsteal) -> sheep + infernoblast -> ring of Frost -> scorch + Pyro + Deepfreeze (glpyhed) -> Pyro -> Pyro -> Infernoblast -> 4sec blanket silence + Pyro -> hardcast whatever -> breath -> hardcast pyro (or frostfirebolt) + infernoblast(or Pyro)
vs warrior you can use frostnova + ring
Overall 5-6 Pyros (3x 100% crit) = 15k-20k on 70% resi

one thing sucks as Fire Mage, all player spam purge brainless to get shield or what ever. That is the hard Part, cc all player or stay LoS.

Thats why frost is the better spec, nobody can purge finger of frost proc. Your burst dmg is save and easy to time.

And Feral is a very strong class atm, but need much skill and practice. Heal and Dmg is insane and cc is ok.
 
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Ferals is in an alright spot I guess since its a hybrid, but most druids play either balance or resto, mages is really bad vs anything that can heal, even with full pvp power you lack the damage to kill people in 1 deep before they heal up, best thing ive found to do is infernoblast -> dragons breath -> RoF -> pyroblast(or fireball if you got instant cast, since your deep wont come off gcd before RoF breaks) -> deep -> pyro spam -> blanket silence into a shatter, and if the target isnt dead by then, you can pretty much give up, also try getting tazik and synapse, even though tazik only hit like 2.5k it still adds abit of damage

You obviously havent played with either of those two classes or faced either. Mage burst is fine at the moment if geared and gemmed properly and ofc given that the player has a clue, and as for ferals, alright spot doesnt represent even half the truth. Rejuv heals for feral are as ridiculous as they are for balance or resto. NS on 1min and trees on 1min as well, which while on the subject inflict IMMENSE dmg and also stun for 4 secs which is appropriate for cc and forcing cds. Other than that, they basically cannot die in bear form but in general the 1-2 ferals I seen in arena were quite mediocre or worse, getting caught in cat form, LoSing their healers etc and basically just facerolling. Especially for ferals, and considering who plays it they are ridiculously strong atm imo. Mages can be very good as well depending on who is playing. Through my response to you I hope i helped the initial asker aswell :)
 
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Sorry :/ everytime i pick up a new class/spec people complain about good it is, even if i'm the only one playing it :( guess i'm fotm roller, and i think your overthinking rejuv there, 3rejuvs and oom, the feral has to play well to keep mana unlike prot palas, since its an uphill battle to have enough mana to cast 1rejuv when needed

not to mention, bearform does next to nothing. i only use it to get thrash up.
 
I really don't understand why you believe that everything being said in this forum has you as a target. I just gave my pov in the matter. On the other hand, yes, ferals are fotm atm. And also w/o any deep insight in your class but just with a generic one, it was my mistake not 2 mention before that bear form actually does make you immortal but I had the games I played vs a feral in mind which I did with a rogue, ergo, 120% more armor and 20% stamina yes pretty much makes you unable to die versus certain setups.
 
You obviously havent played with either of those two classes or faced either. Mage burst is fine at the moment if geared and gemmed properly and ofc given that the player has a clue, and as for ferals, alright spot doesnt represent even half the truth. Rejuv heals for feral are as ridiculous as they are for balance or resto. NS on 1min and trees on 1min as well, which while on the subject inflict IMMENSE dmg and also stun for 4 secs which is appropriate for cc and forcing cds. Other than that, they basically cannot die in bear form but in general the 1-2 ferals I seen in arena were quite mediocre or worse, getting caught in cat form, LoSing their healers etc and basically just facerolling. Especially for ferals, and considering who plays it they are ridiculously strong atm imo. Mages can be very good as well depending on who is playing. Through my response to you I hope i helped the initial asker aswell :)

I based my judgement on feral on a guess, nothing more, because all I see is balance druids. Mages might work well in 3s, but in 2s youll wont land a kill vs a hybrid - healer team that knows how to predict swaps and heal eachother
 
If ferals had the sustained pressure of prot pallies, warriors and sometimes shadowpriests then i would agree they would be fotm and ridiculously strong...

As lewis rightly pointed out, mana control as a feral does not exactly give you unlimited healing potential, unlike derp holy power. Outside of cooldowns ferals are very weak, right now the fotm classes are those who have consistent pressure and good burst - something ferals do not have.
 

When u can global a rogue who actually uses resi ~350, and bring him 2 cheat death with trees which stun upon using and cd is only 1 min cd. erm y i call this op and fotm. And tbh I'm not really up for continuing this. I dont really expect alot from someone who starts his initial posts like " I picked X/Y and im the only one who got 2200 with it" or similar little words.
 

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