Interest Check: "Rated" 19s Arena

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  • I've been toying with this idea for a while now, and I want to see how many people would be interested in taking part.

    One of the disadvantages of the lower level twinking brackets is the lack of any sort of arena rating system. But what I am proposing here is that we create our own community-driven "arena ladder" if you will. I've spent some time researching various formulae for rating used in other games/sports so that I could get a good idea of how to use them and this is what I have come up with:

    My plan at the moment would be to use a variation of the elo rating system that was originally created for rating chess players but has been adapted for many things including even some team-based sports. I would create a thread here to keep track of ratings and where players could register teams. All teams would start at 1500 rating (this is to save the horrendous calculations required to determine teams' mmr). It would be up to the individual teams to challenge other people to get matches going. When a match had finished, a member from each team would have to send a screenshot to me by pm, or I guess as a reply to the main thread, and I would run the results through the elo formula to determine their change in rating.

    Leaving teams would be treated exactly the same as in WoW, the remaining players of the team would be able to keep the team if they so desired and would therefor keep the teams rating - even if another player joined the team.

    As you can tell this is still a rough draft, I wanted to see if there'd actually be interest in taking part before I finalized anything.

    I'd also like any suggestions that would improve on this sort of rough draft if anyone has any. Specifically:

    Should rating be kept to rating teams, or should I find a system that could rate individual players? (bear in mind this would potentially be a lot less accurate a system)
    Should teams have a sort of rating decay if they are missing members, or even if they have just been inactive for a long period of time?
    Should the ratings of disbanded teams (maybe only if they achieved high ratings) be kept on record, perhaps separately from the active teams?


    While this is primarily for EU, it would be easily possible for me to keep track of a ladder for US servers as well. I will also be making the formula used public so a US player could keep track of a ladder for US if that would be preferred.


    Thank you for reading :)
     
    would be very cool

    edit: would there be a mmr system? and how would it work?
    beating bad teams give same rating as beating good teams?
     
    would be very cool

    edit: would there be a mmr system? and how would it work?
    beating bad teams give same rating as beating good teams?

    There wouldn't be an mmr system no, how much rating you gain/lose would depend on the rating of the team. This achieves basically the same purpose, but just means when teams are newly created (or more importantly, if a player was to disband an old team and make a new one with different people) their rating will not reflect their skill at all.

    To solve this, the elo system makes you gain/lose larger rating in your first few games - to try to get you closer to your proper rating as soon as possible.
     
    There wouldn't be an mmr system no, how much rating you gain/lose would depend on the rating of the team. This achieves basically the same purpose, but just means when teams are newly created (or more importantly, if a player was to disband an old team and make a new one with different people) their rating will not reflect their skill at all.

    To solve this, the elo system makes you gain/lose larger rating in your first few games - to try to get you closer to your proper rating as soon as possible.
    Aha I see.
    I'm sure a lot of people would use this system if you're making it
     
    This is genius
     
    Another way to do this, would be creating an addon which made a non official ingame arena team, and everyone who had the addon installed would be able to see your rating and record, and the rating would only change versus people who have the addon installed. This is of course no easy thing to do (or is it? im not an engineer) but if anyone had the knowledge and recourses to create this addon it'd be alot more easy and then we wouldn't be depended on other players to check and approve our games, this of course has a downside which the 70 bracket is familiar with (wintrading) which is kinda lame but still I really like this rating idea :)
     
    Another way to do this, would be creating an addon which made a non official ingame arena team, and everyone who had the addon installed would be able to see your rating and record, and the rating would only change versus people who have the addon installed. This is of course no easy thing to do (or is it? im not an engineer) but if anyone had the knowledge and recourses to create this addon it'd be alot more easy and then we wouldn't be depended on other players to check and approve our games, this of course has a downside which the 70 bracket is familiar with (wintrading) which is kinda lame but still I really like this rating idea :)

    This actually sounds fun. I'm currently doing programming and such for my university course so I may try to make an addon for it. But it will take a huge amount of time, so until then I'll just do it via TI thread

    Edit: It would appear an addon such as this already exists
     
    Another way to do this, would be creating an addon which made a non official ingame arena team, and everyone who had the addon installed would be able to see your rating and record, and the rating would only change versus people who have the addon installed. This is of course no easy thing to do (or is it? im not an engineer) but if anyone had the knowledge and recourses to create this addon it'd be alot more easy and then we wouldn't be depended on other players to check and approve our games, this of course has a downside which the 70 bracket is familiar with (wintrading) which is kinda lame but still I really like this rating idea :)

    epeen...
     
    Lol who would be intrested in your shitty trolling attempt, ur even horrible monk player l2p come HCL 1v1 Monkduel!
     

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