Heirloom > Shadowfang

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Yapah

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Now first of all, my data is from my rogue Sapah @ Draenor - Community - World of Warcraft.

If you take a look at the damage with SF Mainhand and Loom Mace OH (with pyrium) I get 122-148 damage. Now doing this same thing with Loom Mace MH and SF OH I get 125-151 damage. This is a whole 3 extra topend damage using heirloom on MH. Now since heirloom mace will be going main hand, might aswell use Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge - Item - World of Warcraft. for the extra 1 crit.

So by using heirloom sword on main hand and SF on off hand, you gain 1 crit and 3 more topend damage for the loss of 2 haste. Pretty good tradeoff xD

EDIT: This is also proof of why Vultros is better than heirloom dagger. Even if its damage might show lower, with the slower speed and combined AP it gives more topend (bigger ambushes)
 
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loss of bolt gg
 
You felt there was a need to make a thread about this after already posting this in the Talon of Vultros thread?

Inb4 10 pages of pointless arguing about marginal differences.
 
Unless SF procs off of hemo, you still have 1 SF except its on OH, so the shadow proc chance shouldn't really change
 
How hard does the SF proc even hit these days, with resilience? Like 20?
 
i hear OH procs happen a lot xlmaOe

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hate threads like this !! look sf = 2.7 sec heirlooms 2.8 venom procs = 30% (don't depends of the speed anymore) so with a slower wep you loose venom dps then you get back your 3 points !! :):) ^^
so if you wanna have a little more dps dont but sf in OH but a little dagger.
dont forget Evisceration doesnt depends on the wep in MH, the fact in OH the wep loose dps,
dont try to show what is better i hope i was understantable
 
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Actually hes a rich guy with 3 not taking sides but dont just throw things out there without facts.
 
--------------------------------------Mathematical Elaboration and Conclusion-----------------------------------------------

z= 42 (constant because it applies to both SF and McGowan
x= Weapon DPS 15,56 / 15
y= Weapon Speed 2,7 / 2,8
Average Melee Swing Damage (with complete disregard for additional stats)
Venerable Mass of McGowan: (29,4+54,6)/2 = 42 (in MH)
Shadowfang: (29+55)/2 = 42 (in MH)
Now taking into account additional stats:
1 agility = 1,88 AP; 0,078% Crit = (0,0714*1,88)+(x*0,00078) = 0,14636 (SF) / 0,14598 (McGowan) DPS
1 AP = 0,0714 DPS (Is added to both MH and OH not shared however the OH damage reduction does apply)
1 Crit = 0,3375% Crit = (x*0,003375) = 0,0525 (SF) / 0,0506 (McGowan) DPS
1 Haste = 0,473% Haste = (z/(y*(1-0,00473)))-x = 0,069 (SF) / 0,071 (McGowan) DPS
"Shadowy Bolt" now i did some testing and hit the same player 200 times and shadowy bolt procced 11 times now i see a pattern emerging so i round it off 50 5% chance which seems pretty accurate. It caused average of 19 - 20 depending on amount of resilience gear.
Given said proc chance:
(0,05*19,5)/2,7 = 0,361 DPS

--------THE CONCLUSION---------

Shadowfang:
15,56 DPS
+
6 Agility (6*0,14636)
Shadowy Bolts (0,361)
=
16,7826DPS V 44,338/Hit

Venerable Mace McGowan
15 DPS
+
3 Agility (3*0,14598)
2 Haste (2*0,071)
2 Critical Strike (2*0,0506)
Energy Regeneration (0,10/s) roughly 0,3 DPS considering hemorrhage or the monk equivalent Keg Smash would cost 40 energy.
=
15,981 DPS V 43,907 / Hit

So with regard to marginals in all aspects shadowfang has a substantial DPS lead and despite it's swifter speed it hit's with a greater potency nonetheless and hence not even abilities that benefit from weapon damage should be considered a valid argument in favor of McGowan. I calculated the DPS of Shadowfang myself because the label contradict aforementioned speed and average damage. Venerable Mass of McGowan provides but more stamina.

Q.E.D. ------- Quod Erat Demonstrandum ------- (Thusly Proved)
 
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