Current state of 80-84

[glancealot]

so i played some BG's on my rogue to farm some honor for wrathful, also to check out the current state of the bracket:


1, dps classes like mages/hunters/rogues etc do extremely well at 84. why? because they can just ignore resil and equip the best MoP items they can find: those pieces have no resil but they do come with a lot of stamina.


2, in general, spell dps classes are way better than physical dps classes because their damage isn't reduced by armor.


3, healers that stack resil do extremely well at 80, there is absolutely no need to level past 80, because you cannot level down.


4, level 80 spell dps twinks do pretty well too with 409 pieces, because their damage isn't reduced by armor.


5, level 80 physical dps twinks, like myself, are hopeless against any semi-serious twink. but once i finish my resil set and professions, i will be an annoying wet noodle.

 

[Xipelol]

5, level 80 physical dps twinks, like myself, are hopeless against any semi-serious twink. but once i finish my resil set and professions, i will be an annoying wet noodle.

i play warrior and i have absolutely no issue what so ever and I'm pretty gimped due to lacking so many spells, if you as a rogue are failing against casters then you just suck plain and simple rogues have and always will gimp the shit out of casters.

 

[glancealot]

ok i respec'd sub and it is a lot better, i didn't want to spec sub at first because of the lack of backstab.

here are some things an 80 rogue should do:

1, spec sub and use Glyph of Ambush - Item - World of Warcraft

2, spec Subterfuge - Spell - World of Warcraft and Burst of Speed - Spell - World of Warcraft

3, stack resil, as much as possible. use 409 items to make up the dps lost.

4, 11 second sprint is a must. that extra 3 second could decide the outcome of an AB/WSG.

5, enchant weapons with http://www.wowhead.com/spell=104440/

6, one of your prof must be engineering.

7, http://www.wowhead.com/item=46088 provides a lot of resil and goes really well with shadow dance, so use it.

 

[Splosion]

Question on the trinket, wouldn't it be better to use a proc one just because you've already said rogues need engineering (thus have synapse)?

 

[glancealot]

Question on the trinket, wouldn't it be better to use a proc one just because you've already said rogues need engineering (thus have synapse)?

i said engineering because of two things

Spinal Healing Injector - Spell - World of Warcraft

and

Goblin Glider - Spell - World of Warcraft

however, i believe http://www.wowhead.com/spell=109077 is better than http://www.wowhead.com/spell=126731 btw.

i'd also to mention that rogues should use this glyph and spec http://www.wowhead.com/spell=79008. it goes hand in hand with resil stacking.

 

[Aelobin]

however, i believe Incendiary Fireworks Launcher - Spell - World of Warcraft is better than Synapse Springs - Spell - World of Warcraft btw.

Lolwut? You'd rather take 2.5k damage every 45 secs over 1920 agi for 10 secs every minute? I think you just broke my brain.

 

[Xipelol]

however, i believe Incendiary Fireworks Launcher - Spell - World of Warcraft is better than Synapse Springs - Spell - World of Warcraft btw.

We're all thinking it but I'm the only one which is going to say it, your a fucking moron.

 

[glancealot]

well i dont have mop yet. i just thought it's better because on wowhead it said 17500 damage at 85 so i figured it must be a lot of damage at 80 too...

 

[dtmaik]

It scales with the Level, sadly.

 

[glancealot]

It scales with the Level, sadly.

so how much does it hit for when used by an 80?

is it really 2500 like Aelobin said? that wouldn't make sense because even tazik does more.

oh but i guess it's on a 45 sec CD so it's more like an upgraded hand-mounted pyro.

 

[Aelobin]

I've not tested it (I don't have an 80 with engineering) but that's what the tooltip shows when I link it from Wowhead.

 

[glancealot]

it goes from 17500(at 85) to 2500 (at 80)?

that's a drop by 6/7=86%...

 

[dtmaik]

http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/WoWScrnShot102712223838a10e9121jpg.jpg

German Client, but you can see the Numbers ;p

 

[glancealot]

http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/WoWScrnShot102712223838a10e9121jpg.jpg

German Client, but you can see the Numbers ;p

oh wells...i will look into it and decide what the best glove tinker is.

but like i said, i consider engi a must for spinal healing and parachute.

 

[Bloodskillz]

damn