State of the bracket

[Omgganked]

Hey guys looking at getting back into the Twinking scene and was wondering if after the xpac 80s were still going strong? How are the que times?

 

[Jonqui]

Last I checked the que's were about 17-25min long and in the mornings and most of the afternoon during the week they didn't pop at all, so que during the weekends at about 6-9 and you'll get a pop.


Another things concerning 80 twinks in general, I don't know if someone wants to make a separate thread for this but I was hoping we could get some twinks to post the armory of their twinks, I'd like to see some real twinks in the bracket not some brutal geared players that we see in bg's so often
-Jonqui

 

[mookjr]

for 80-84, it can take a while to get an initial pop (15-20 min), but then games seem to pop more frequently. If you haven't tried it since mop, you definately want to have the 409 stuff if you can get it to bring your damage up (if you're 80) in order to tackle the large health pools of any 84s you run into and you'll want to have good resil for the same reason; to counteract their damage.

 

[mrdoobry]

The state of it is a little like this at the moment?

 

[mookjr]

Stylezx @ Exodar - Community - World of Warcraft

would be an example of a decently twinked character now. note the 409 gear coupled with pieces that allow them to get 4 85 gems, including the meta with a weapon that will throw enough damage to global you if you are not wearing resil gear and they get a crit+ mastery proc crit.

this guy hits hard too
Gnarlyknight @ Exodar - Community - World of Warcraft

 

[Splosion]

I love how both of those characters are mindlessly gemming for nearly pure agility, like 80s during cata did (It wasn't even the way then). Sure they hit hard, but they could hit a lot harder.

 

[Amaya]

How so? AP = Agility*2 and agility scales better with buffs than AP does.

What else should you gem? ASFAIK PvP Power gems suck. No reason to gem crit or haste. Can't gem mastery.

 

[Splosion]

AP increases weapon dps as a factor of 14 AP to 1 dps. Since we have around 3x the usual weapon damage (thanks to the 409 items), AP is worth around 30% of it's previous value, perhaps less because it has that little of an impact. Gemming haste/crit on the other hand (since stuff like Improved Ambush were removed with 5.0) Have a much more inflated value (they were 30% stronger at 80 than 85 in 4.3, which was enough to warrant matching sockets), so you will want to go for more of them.

As for PvP power, it's simply a crit-esque stat (i.e. increases your damage by X%, much like crit averages out to for a lot of classes), and because we don't have any on gear at 80, it's worth using in blue slots.