Is MoP the end of F2P twinking?

gabii

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thoes any of you realize that the paladins are really OP after last patch?
lest the screenshot speaks from itself:

a warsong only against paladins :/
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You can't be serious....
The patch just came out and this always happens. Holy Shock will likely get the nerf it deserves before MOP.
 
Also how have you not noticed the gazillion threads already in existence about this? :confused:
Of course people have realized that paladins are OP, it's only mentioned in every second post.

The thing to hope for here is that it'll get fixed soon. :)
 
No offense, but Blizzard hasn't indicated that they plan on fixing anything. Blizzard has said they aren't doing anything until they see level 90 balance, and then they MIGHT change Paladins. If Paladins are balanced healers/tanks at 90, don't expect Blizzard to make any changes to balance 20's... Just sayin', don't hold your breath.
 
Preeztess said:
. Blizzard has said they aren't doing anything until they see level 90 balance, and then they MIGHT change Paladins.
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Haven't seen that yet, was it a blue post? And just to second everyone else thoughts, yes, holy pally's are op. Yes, its annoying right now. But with all the new abilities and resil changes and so on, there's obviously gonna be some imbalance in the game. Remember, this is just the prepatch-theres 3 weeks before the full mop patch arrives, so give blizzard a chance at least. If we see no fixes in a few weeks-heck i'd even wait a month or two, then I will start to worry a little more. However, by that point I'll have worked out the cheapest way to get gw2 on my mac so....
 
did anyone notice a hunter is saying that :p
 
roflthread. No, MoP is not the end of f2p twinkling. F2P is a twink bracket, and it will exist until the whole game is F2P or they kill trial editions altogether.
 
It's not like games with 7 Alliance Hunters were so great before Maybe if every Hunter hadn't rerolled to Paladin it wouldn't be as bad. Start by looking in the Mirror first when you cry the sky is falling
 
I know this isnt the first time a patch goes live with many imbalance issues, but with this one is the first time that i get into a warsong and found 10 (the whole warsong team) players of the same class together.... just saying..

Im sure all of us know that blizzard cares about the balance in the game but that goes for top level pvp. and im sure they dont give a @#⅜& about the F2P bracket.

in the end, all we can do is wait and see if MoP fix any of this
 
gabii said:
I know this isnt the first time a patch goes live with many imbalance issues, but with this one is the first time that i get into a warsong and found 10 (the whole warsong team) players of the same class together.... just saying..

Im sure all of us know that blizzard cares about the balance in the game but that goes for top level pvp. and im sure they dont give a @#⅜& about the F2P bracket.

in the end, all we can do is wait and see if MoP fix any of this
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im pretty sure there is 9 paladins and one hunter.Ive seen 9 hunters before MoP , ive been against and with those teams but

There is only one time ive seen 10 of one class.

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Whats ruining the game and the bracket are the people. Before the patch you were lucky to see 3-4 Hpalllys per game and most of them were Horded side. Now you got 7 Alliance Paladins and 7 Horde Paladins and 5 of the Horde side pallys aren't even geared right. They just respected and rolling with last weeks gear. Now add in the 24 pallys who are truly the Gods of the bracket who GY farm on both sides and you now have a recipe on how to kill a bracket.
 
gabii said:
Im sure all of us know that blizzard cares about the balance in the game but that goes for top level pvp. and im sure they dont give a @#⅜& about the F2P bracket.
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I don't know, I'm sure blizzard doesn't want to discourage potential new customers. It also not only affects the bg players, but also the casuals who every time they wander through Goldshire get challenged by paladins to a duel, and might just be looking for blizzard to make their class a little more fair. Not everyone in the f2p bracket is as hard core about being f2p as the people on this site, and I'm sure Blizzard realizes that their business means getting new subscribers.
 
For those who have never done endgame PvE, this is what it sounds like:

Blizzard release the new Raid for MoP
Everyone is finally done gearing through Heroics and finally start doing the new Raid.
The Raid is too hard, everyone starts QQing on the forums
After a few weeks of constant crying on the forums, blizzard nerfs it to the ground on tuesday.
Now everyone can do Heroic, oh but heroic is too hard. So everyone goes back to the forums to qq even moar.
After about a month of constant QQing, blizzard nerfs Heroic.
A few months later, blizzards release a new raid.

Rinse and Repeat.



I have a feeling this will happen for PvP as well. Holy Shock needs to be nerfed, thank god F2Ps dont have access to glyphs yet. Holy shock glyphed is even more stupidly OP. My Starsurge in eclipse can crit for slightly under 700 dmg without zerking; this is coming from a 100% BiS Balance Druid. An undergeared holy paladin with absolutely no BoA gear and is basically BiS pre-BoA/BoE; Can crit me for 730 dmg with holy shock.

This just goes to show how bad a nerf is required. I think Holy Paladins and rdruids are gonna be the FOTM @endgame with all the new utilities at their disposal. But a Holy Paladin shouldn't be able to do more damage than the actual DPS itself and still be able to 1-heal people.

And I've been looking at the forums, holy paladins are a problem at every level in every bracket in any situation. There's not a day goes by where there's another QQ thread about Holy Shock. Holy Paladin's holy Shock is going to get nerfed by the time MoP is released if not the week before release.


Blizzard won't listen to 1 person's QQ. But if more than half of the people are complaining about Holy Shock at every level, blizzard will fix it and say to themselves:


NOW YOU FUCKED UP - YouTube
 
Mrcer said:
And I've been looking at the forums, holy paladins are a problem at every level in every bracket in any situation. There's not a day goes by where there's another QQ thread about Holy Shock. Holy Paladin's holy Shock is going to get nerfed by the time MoP is released if not the week before release.
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1. We don't know how Holy Pallys will be balanced at 90.
2. Show me the blue posts where they care about it.

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There were beta and PTR holy shock videos and threads but Blizz chose to release it as is anyway. Before paladins it was games of ten hunters. Even if they don't Nerf heroics, Blizz claim they will be less faceroll, then people gear, then people complain they are faceroll.

Compared to the pre Cat patch, which involved constant crashing and many more bugs than this, it's not as bad. Blizz did eventually fix most issues.

The difference between BiS F2P and blues geared is pretty minimal. Blizz will never try to balance that.

For myself, apart from numbers issues, my real problem is the dumbing down and over simplification of the game and the fact that x0 and x4 and x5 and x9 levels have such widely varying abilities. Give abilities every five levels like talents. Make abilties work against four levels above, not three.
 
Preeztess said:
1. We don't know how Holy Pallys will be balanced at 90.
2. Show me the blue posts where they care about it.

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All I need to do is look at the history of blizzard's actions. It'll get fixed. History always repeats itself. They messed up, then they overnerf it. I'll be sure to send you a PM when MoP is released.
 
Aradiel said:
For myself, apart from numbers issues, my real problem is the dumbing down and over simplification of the game

Make abilties work against four levels above, not three.
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/signed.

Doesn't make any sense to make brackets with four level differences if there is such a disparity between them.

As for your first point... I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here - Boring
 
I really dont think that its hpals in genral that have ruined this bracket.Its the amount of prot/ret pals who think its ok to switch to holy in full strength gear.Top that with all the hunters who realize they're no longer OP and switch to making hpals and u got a pretty terrible bracket expierience.So please people,dont blame hpals in genral,blame all of those people who want to faceroll in bgs :)
 
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