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Hey looked through the forums and i couldnt really find a forum explaining it to me.

I wanna know why not use the Ring of Argas and Garrosh band instead of the Stillwater's signet and the Lavishly jewelled ring

thanks
 
ill assume this is for healing?

for the first ring (lavish) its used to help get you hit capped. As a hpally you need to be using judgement at least every 60 seconds to keep judgment of the pure up (giving you both a haste buff and slight mana regen increase in combat) also it ensure that your best offensive spell always lands (hoj) or when you need to dps with exo/holy shock

for the 2nd ring you are essentially trading 1 stamina and 4 int for 3 crit. with crit heals healing for double, stacking crit when possible is very helpful with the amount of burst around right now.

The only times I use double argas rings (argas/garrosh for you assuming you havent factioned for 2nd) is either for an fcing set when stamina has more weight or a more mana based set for when I know ill be in combat most of the game.

tl;dr

people use lavish/stillwaters to get hit capped and stack crit which helps with your best counter to all the burst dps, burst healing.
 
Hey looked through the forums and i couldnt really find a forum explaining it to me.

I wanna know why not use the Ring of Argas and Garrosh band instead of the Stillwater's signet and the Lavishly jewelled ring

thanks

hit capping for judgement is not needed, even for the few times you may melee or exo...not needed imo

even you are healing others which heals you, and heals on yourself....go for crit, large WOGs and HS;s, etc

Iðl @ Demon Soul - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

come MOP, there is no more exo, and judgement to kick in haste/mana regen
 
Hey looked through the forums and i couldnt really find a forum explaining it to me.

I wanna know why not use the Ring of Argas and Garrosh band instead of the Stillwater's signet and the Lavishly jewelled ring

thanks

Those are the rings I use and I got all of them. BiS in my opinion...
 
Iðl @ Demon Soul - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

You dont have a spidersilk drape? is that on purpose or still havent gone for it ?

heals don't miss on freindly players and myself, as for the rare times i have to defend myself....still don't need hit. i have lavishly jeweled ring, slippers of untamed loyalties, never use them. have garsoh pardon ring, don't use it either, so no use going ally for a 2nd argas.

i'm hoping blizz fix's the x-realm BOA issue, have the helms on another server
 
When referring to hit, you mention everything except HoJ, which is the thing you need hit for the most...

A missed HoJ can be very game changing, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
 
5 miss out of 95 HOJ's i can live with that.

look at the majority of h-pals even good ones are stam stacked and only hit most have is the spidersilk drape if that
 
5 miss out of 95 HOJ's i can live with that.

look at the majority of h-pals even good ones are stam stacked and only hit most have is the spidersilk drape if that

I can assure you that while people like koncentrate, kancer, blirz, ore, etc may not use a hit capped set all the time,when they premade they will be using hit capped sets (when its not just messing around in pugs). While there are situations where stats are better than being hit capped or not, the vast majority of the time (90% or more) you will need that hit to ensure that you can either burst someone down with exo spam or land that key hoj.
 
Basically hit cap for HoJ (Holy Shock/Judgement lower priorities). Exorcism is being removed from lower levels (level 46 Ret only ability!?).
 
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so you are saying in premades they have +10 hit: thru wearing combos of the following:

- spidersilk drape +4
- lavish ring +3

- hovel bracers +2
- simple pearl ring +4
- +5 hit ench to boots
- BOA ring +3
- ellio's band + 3
-bravo company signet +3

most never go beyond those in green, some may add BOA ring if they got it, which is rare
 
so you are saying in premades they have +10 hit: thru wearing combos of the following:

- spidersilk drape +4
- lavish ring +3

- hovel bracers +2
- simple pearl ring +4
- +5 hit ench to boots
- BOA ring +3
- ellio's band + 3
-bravo company signet +3

most never go beyond those in green, some may add BOA ring if they got it, which is rare

You only need 7 rating to spell hit cap, not 10.

Another combination besides Spidersilk/Lavish is Spidersilk and Acquisition Bracers.
 
yeah but in going for the crit set-up will not have acq-bracers

that is a choice one has to make in the building process which imo, as stated, i recommend going crit. full 10 vs 10 premades are rare. in the 5 man mini mades/pugs most have the cloak if that
 
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as holy? what hit head? eng goggles? or the rogue or warrior helm?
 
as holy? what hit head? eng goggles? or the rogue or warrior helm?

there are two options, the mail boa head that gives haste/hit or the plate one that gives crit/hit. Id lean more towards the plate one since your giving up .2 less cast time for about 1 and a half crit chance.
 
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if blizz makes it possible to xfer the BOAs...i plan on using cloth helm

i don't premade...just pug at random. come MOP h-pals no longer get the free self heals from when they HS, WOGs, etc on others. H-pals are gonna have to seriously work again at healing others, and at the same time having to stop and heal themselves.

the lol-idan days are over
 

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