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Well, I wasn't going to respond to this garbage, but here's the fact:

Blizzard owns every portion of this game, including the guild in question and the gold that was spent. Derv owned the actual real life currency he spent, so if anyone has any claim to the guild, it's derv (since he was ultimately given guild lead).

I don't mean to trivialize the whole issue, but dems da breaks. Blizzard DOES NOT support these kinds of transactions (as you have no doubt already learned by talking to a GM), so they are literally 'at your own risk.' Considering you didn't actually lose anything IRL, you should count yourself lucky and use this as a learning experience: don't treat a video game transaction as a real life transaction.

The other part of this which is baffling to me is the fact that a player would completely screw over another player by leveling his tinker, and think that all would be magically forgotten/forgiven. Some would call it fate that the player responsible for destroying Druin, would find his own plans destroyed. It's even ironic that he would trust someone who was close to Druin with his plans, completely oblivious of the things he did himself.

Justice has been served.
 
willix said:
well, i wasn't going to respond to this garbage, but here's the fact:

Blizzard owns every portion of this game, including the guild in question and the gold that was spent. Derv owned the actual real life currency he spent, so if anyone has any claim to the guild, it's derv (since he was ultimately given guild lead).

I don't mean to trivialize the whole issue, but dems da breaks. Blizzard does not support these kinds of transactions (as you have no doubt already learned by talking to a gm), so they are literally 'at your own risk.' considering you didn't actually lose anything irl, you should count yourself lucky and use this as a learning experience: Don't treat a video game transaction as a real life transaction.

The other part of this which is baffling to me is the fact that a player would completely screw over another player by leveling his tinker, and think that all would be magically forgotten/forgiven. Some would call it fate that the player responsible for destroying druin, would find his own plans destroyed. It's even ironic that he would trust someone who was close to druin with his plans, completely oblivious of the things he did himself.

Justice has been served.
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but how can you prove that derv isn't guilty??
 
willix said:
Well, I wasn't going to respond to this garbage, but here's the fact:

Blizzard owns every portion of this game, including the guild in question and the gold that was spent. Derv owned the actual real life currency he spent, so if anyone has any claim to the guild, it's derv (since he was ultimately given guild lead).

I don't mean to trivialize the whole issue, but dems da breaks. Blizzard DOES NOT support these kinds of transactions (as you have no doubt already learned by talking to a GM), so they are literally 'at your own risk.' Considering you didn't actually lose anything IRL, you should count yourself lucky and use this as a learning experience: don't treat a video game transaction as a real life transaction.

The other part of this which is baffling to me is the fact that a player would completely screw over another player by leveling his tinker, and think that all would be magically forgotten/forgiven. Some would call it fate that the player responsible for destroying Druin, would find his own plans destroyed. It's even ironic that he would trust someone who was close to Druin with his plans, completely oblivious of the things he did himself.

Justice has been served.
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You're an idiot :S

Whoever had their toon leveled years ago could have easily gotten the now gf'd gear back by now. And anyone can go sell 240k for over $200
 
willix said:
Well, I wasn't going to respond to this garbage, but here's the fact:

Blizzard owns every portion of this game, including the guild in question and the gold that was spent. Derv owned the actual real life currency he spent, so if anyone has any claim to the guild, it's derv (since he was ultimately given guild lead).

I don't mean to trivialize the whole issue, but dems da breaks. Blizzard DOES NOT support these kinds of transactions (as you have no doubt already learned by talking to a GM), so they are literally 'at your own risk.' Considering you didn't actually lose anything IRL, you should count yourself lucky and use this as a learning experience: don't treat a video game transaction as a real life transaction.

The other part of this which is baffling to me is the fact that a player would completely screw over another player by leveling his tinker, and think that all would be magically forgotten/forgiven. Some would call it fate that the player responsible for destroying Druin, would find his own plans destroyed. It's even ironic that he would trust someone who was close to Druin with his plans, completely oblivious of the things he did himself.

Justice has been served.
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willix, you have been greatley mistaken about Druin, It was not Tapout nor i who leveled druin, to think it was us is nieve, it was our older brother that leveled druin, the way it happened is our older brother found druins infomation on the desktop of the computer and decided he have a look at this account. after he had a look at druins account he decided to level druins character for god knows what reason. So you better get your fucken facts right before you open your mouth.
 
xxHolylipzqtxoxotwinkerxx said:
So you're saying it's at least worth a shot?
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I am saying that it will most likely work and if it doesn't give it another try. Dramatized said he's done this with 4 faction changes lol and I completely believe this
 
I cannot ask Blizzard to revoke the transfer/faction because I did not transfer/faction MTV. I paid him and he spent the money that I traded.
 
Honestly, nothing can be more irrelevant to this situation than some random dude getting leveled five years ago.
 
willix, you have been greatley mistaken about Druin, It was not Tapout nor i who leveled druin, to think it was us is nieve, it was our older brother that leveled druin, the way it happened is our older brother found druins infomation on the desktop of the computer and decided he have a look at this account. after he had a look at druins account he decided to level druins character for god knows what reason. So you better get your fucken facts right before you open your mouth.
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Since it was your (fictional) brother, guilt by association, and justice has been served.
You're an idiot :S

Whoever had their toon leveled years ago could have easily gotten the now gf'd gear back by now. And anyone can go sell 240k for over $200
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Completely besides the point. Tapout should have been a lot smarter about who he chose to trust with the guild, and maybe he might still have it.

but how can you prove that derv isn't guilty??
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Who cares? Balanced has been restored, Derv is a hero.
 
Livingforce said:
willix, you have been greatley mistaken about Druin, It was not Tapout nor i who leveled druin, to think it was us is nieve, it was our older brother that leveled druin, the way it happened is our older brother found druins infomation on the desktop of the computer and decided he have a look at this account. after he had a look at druins account he decided to level druins character for god knows what reason. So you better get your fucken facts right before you open your mouth.
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Do you have proof for us that it was infact your "older brother" and not Tapout? For all we know this could be some made-up story to save face.
 
willix said:
Since it was your (fictional) brother, guilt by association, and justice has been served.


Completely besides the point. Tapout should have been a lot smarter about who he chose to trust with the guild, and maybe he might still have it.



Who cares? Balanced has been restored, Derv is a hero.
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Willix your a rotten piece of shit thats all i got to say.
 
Although I may not agree with everything Willix says, one point he does make is true the argument that Derv should have known better to buy the guild from MTV could be made that Tapout should have known better not to trust MTV. If you are going to make one side of that argument you can't dismiss the other.
 
I'm trying to get into contact with Tapout to see if we can work something legit out.
 
Willix your a rotten piece of shit thats all i got to say.
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Coming from someone who is a known exploiter (which ruins games) and has spent a great deal of time tossing the health and future of the 19 bracket to the way side.

Do you have proof of who logged on random druid's account five years ago?
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Livingforce just incriminated his own brother.
 
Dorigon said:
I'm asking for proof, even evidence, not hearsay. The truth gets muddled after so many dozens of months.
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You started all this bullshit on TI about Tapout's guild being hijacked, 100% based on hearsay. The only evidence you have is the involved parties actively discussing the events in question, which is no different than someone incriminating themselves.

'Anything you say can and will be held against you, in a court of law.'
 
willix said:
You started all this bullshit on TI about Tapout's guild being hijacked, 100% based on hearsay. The only evidence you have is the involved parties actively discussing the events in question, which is no different than someone incriminating themselves.

'Anything you say can and will be held against you, in a court of law.'
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This is not a court of law. It is not even a court of public opinion. I need better than that, Willix.
 
Dorigon said:
This is not a court of law. It is not even a court of public opinion. I need better than that, Willix.
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Actually, you don't need anything, you're just a no-name tinker who thinks he's someone special. Last I checked, no one cares what you think, especially me. What matters are the facts of the situation, and the outcome.

Not what you think about it.
 
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