bracket is not based on BH server - stay where you are- play where you are

cheatz said:
.. Or you could attempt to create a competitive environment on your home server, ditch your "can't beat 'em so i'll join 'em" mentality, save 25$, make new friends, get good at the game, and grow the community simultaneously. Just because they don't have 1k+ posts on this shit forum doesn't mean they can't PvP, ffs.

That is all.
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Or stop fucking queuing with friends and swapping teams. The biggest problem with the community, are the current people it in.

You will never get people to say if they are constantly getting camped or waiting 10 minutes to win 3-0 in 7 minutes

Making a guild would do jack shit to help twinks. "The efforts of an individual cannot compete with the stupidity of society"
 
I'll add my two cents to this scintillating argument. Transferring to BH does not make you evil, and many of the twinks who play on that server are, surprisingly, not out to destroy 19 twinking as we know it. I have a toon on BH. I also have toons on many other servers. I enjoy the competitive atmosphere a large twinking population brings, as well as wargames and duels.

This "if ya can't beat em join em" thing everyone complains about with ppl xfering to BH isn't very true at all. Multiple guilds have sprouted on this server, many are completely new, four are active and currently premade ready. People don't like their asses being handed to them by anyone, and with WT being the main distributor of ass whoopings over the pass few years, they have generated this negative image from everyone who is not in WT or does not play with them. When people xfer to BH, they are seen to be joining this community, and i feel this is where most of the unhappiness is generated.

There are positives and negatives on both sides of the argument. In the end, with the advent of real ID, I don't think it really matters where you play as long as you find people you want to play with. Go have fun tinkers, that's what your toons are for.
 
recruiting new twinks on your home server is like trade chat pugging for RBGs. You are going to be stuck with terribles no matter what.

if I had a desire to play i probably would xfer whatever main twink I wanted to play to BH and earn my spot in a guild somewhere by my play instead of sitting on some backwoods crap server and trying to recruit awful kids who won't stick with twinking and probably can't even gear to form a twink guild.
 
Exactly, BH is a filter so to speak...



of the casuals and the non-casuaLs
 
Karmaz said:
Exactly, BH is a filter so to speak...



of the casuals and the non-casuaLs
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Ya, i mean if u wanna play w/ the same 50 ppl for the rest of ur twink's life fine w/ me. But when those 50 ppl quit gl getting a game.

Okay, sooo 10 million or so ppl play WoW and ur saying the only people that can compete with the best are the 40 or so active players on BH? Give me a break, 95% of you kids couldn't even hit 1800... Just because ppl are considered #1 doesn't mean they're good. O, cool, ur the best out of like the 6 decent mages that actually still 19 twink, great job. In reality, if we were to actually seek competition and recruit from outside of the community we could find more players, competition, get better que times, improve the community, and generally make things a bit more exciting.

So what if the person u recruit off of general chat doesn't understand the mechanics of 19 twinking, you can teach them, and honestly, a random recruit off general chat is gonna be better than a majority of the garbage we play with everyday. Just saying. (U prolly wouldnt even have to do much considering how many people have had a 19 at some point in time. There are whole guilds full of inactive 19s all over the place)

Most twinks still playing today are just the remnants of what twinking was in BC, when there was competition. Our numbers have been dwindling slowly ever since then. I know how u guys hate competition, but i think its time to find a few new people to play w/.

and @Luna we could fix farming too. We just have to find new twinks that generally arent egotistical pricks. Shouldnt be a problem.
 
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Dorigon said:
fyi ur just arguing semantics
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the study of linguistic development by classifying and examining changes in meaning and form.

don't think so





 
To be honest I dont like everyone on BH. However, if everyone was on the same server I think this bracket would be much funner!
 
shanker said:
the study of linguistic development by classifying and examining changes in meaning and form.

don't think so
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The branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning.

ur arguing the meaning of twink guild, an argument that ultimately has no substance or purpose
 
save urself some cash!! xfer off bleeding hollow back to your home server!! recruit randoms for 19s! quickly!
 
@ Cheatz - Anyone who joins will be farmed by WT - I was sitting on ally roof with 3 ppl doing nothing and then Pizza comes and kills us.

Then the people you have recruited will either quit or when they can farm, will do so and use "They did this to us all day".

It wont matter if you get new ppl who dont farm - Half of WT will swap sides like they have always done and others will do the same.

P.S Credit for Kancerr - actually managed to stay in a game for 2 deaths before /afking.
 
I don't understand why u guys don't want new players? Why are ppl against expanding the bracket? What's the problem?

@Sax u dont even have to xfer anywhere. U can even recruit on BH. if you all hung out in SW, together, and spammed trade a little bit (even with non-twink related stuff)i'm sure u'd pick up some numbers, or at least get some ppl to ask some questions. It's just that it would be much easier to recruit large amounts of ppl if we weren't all on the same server considering our audience would be bigger. Make sense?

@Luna ya, ppl need to stop being dicks. i agree. it's obvious people don't want competition so they try to suppress the possibility whenever possible. kinda sad. why do you think people q in large grps and farm? think about it.
 
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cheatz said:
I don't understand why u guys don't want new players? Why are ppl against expanding the bracket? What's the problem?

@Sax u dont even have to xfer anywhere. U can even recruit on BH. if you all hung out in SW, together, and spammed trade a little bit (even with non-twink related stuff)i'm sure u'd pick up some numbers, or at least get some ppl to ask some questions. It's just that it would be much easier to recruit large amounts of ppl if we weren't all on the same server considering our audience would be bigger. Make sense?

@Luna ya, ppl need to stop being dicks. i agree. it's obvious people don't want competition so they try to suppress the possibility whenever possible. kinda sad. why do you think people q in large grps and farm? think about it.
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trust me people are aware there are 19 twinks on BH, and i have twinks spread out on tons of servers and pick up randoms who want to play all the time even helping out with AGM and shit, i do my part but i dont brag about it. u say u want people to save money to not xfer to BH, but you're pretty much asking people on BH to go back to there home servers and recruit as well its a bit absurd.

edit ; most people who are new and join the bracket wont stick to it due to farming/inconsitency in games ( which u are aware of), and most people who u amnage to pick up will find twinking as a casual thing, logging on every now and again.
 
Saxxon said:
trust me people are aware there are 19 twinks on BH, and i have twinks spread out on tons of servers and pick up randoms who want to play all the time even helping out with AGM and shit, i do my part but i dont brag about it. u say u want people to save money to not xfer to BH, but you're pretty much asking people on BH to go back to there home servers and recruit as well its a bit absurd.
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I never said they should xfer back. I just want people to be active in recruiting new members to the bracket and i dont think consolidating on a single, moderate pop server would be the best way to go about that. i think if people stayed where they are and tried to build something on the server they are currently on, they would have a lot of luck. If a lot of ppl did this then we would have a lot of new players. As opposed to spending 25$ to go to BH just so u can duel ppl between matches.
 
hey if you want to get better you need to play top flight competition. seems like BH has a lot of that top flight 19 tink talent. telling people not to xfer to BH is like switching battlegroups to dodj good players.

also really who cares what people do. i mean really is it bothering you so bad there are a large number of twinks on BH? who cares
 
allahkazam said:
hey if you want to get better you need to play top flight competition. seems like BH has a lot of that top flight 19 tink talent. telling people not to xfer to BH is like switching battlegroups to dodj good players.

also really who cares what people do. i mean really is it bothering you so bad there are a large number of twinks on BH? who cares
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1. its not dodjing at all cuz ques are US wide. this makes no sense.

2. its really not bugging me that bad, i just wish people would branch out rather than only recruit from within the community. if we continue to do so we're asking to get killed off. i'm just trying to help out here. sorry if i hurt anyone's feelings for suggesting that we get some new people to play w...

3. (although there is no 3rd thing to respond to) GY farming needs to stop. u all know it. roll ur premades, i dont give a shit. just dont farm. its horrible for the bracket.
 
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