F2P Official Feral Druid PVP Guide

[DubbsBegins]

Furor gives you enough energy for an inmediate Mangle, Rake or Ferocious Bite as soon as you shift back into cat form. Without it, you have to wait.

Not only that, Furor gives you enough energy for an EXTRA Mangle or Rake after shifting back and landing that first one. Without it, you have much less burst dps.

Furor allows you to shift out of cat form at any time, depending on your immediate needs, with no penalty.

Predatory Strikes is very situational because it requires you to build up 5 combo points and land a finishing move before you can use it. Trying to stay in and get those last two combo points when you really need to be shifting out RIGHT NOW will get you killed in pvp more often than not.

Druids already have healing and dps spells that are instant-cast already without the need for a Predatory Strikes proc. This means the key qualitative differences for the PS proc would be Roots and Rebirth. Roots might be nice, but ferals already have a huge built-in mobility advantage. Where PS really shines is with Cyclone, which we do not have at level 20.

The Predatory Strikes buff can be dispelled, whereas the benefits of Furor are always available.


Don't get me wrong, Predatory Strikes is a nice talent, but not one to be taken over Furor for pvp. But that's just my opinion, admittedly, developed from my past experiences with feral pvp against all types of classes and specs (not just hunters & rogues) and often in 1v2 or even 1v3 situations. I would not presume to write an "Official" feral pvp guide, though.

Didnt we talk about this already?
1furor gives you enough for immediate mangle/rake/ bite. just not extra IF you just shifted to cat form.
predatory strikes doesnt require you to build up 5.... its 100% with 5 80% with 4 etc. predatory strikes poped when i had 3points (60%) more than not. when do you even need to shift out RIGHT NOW? i wrote a bunch of crap about this and i do understand that it might have been pretty hard to read and understand but you do still need to try to understand instead of just ignoring it if you want to argue with me. (read again first please)
I do agree that 3furor is better for arenas as stated. but in bgs, like you said, in 1v2 1v3 is more like it. your health goes down alot more faster. let me ask you this. What if you need a 150+ or plus instant heal after a finishing move so you can deal with other ones? with 3furor you will be sitting there casting regrowth with the risk of getting interrupted or just dying. (rejuv is not a instant live saving heals just like recuperate for rogues)
cyclone would be awesome but since we dont have it, we automatically underestimate other semi cc abilities such as roots. to melees, roots can act just like cyclone but better since it allows for you to damage them with dots etc. Roots might not be a "cc" to casters but it is much harder to mouse turn stationary as a caster to hit a circling (or more intense) melee target (especially with speed bonuses)
and roots force them to cast a channeling/ non instant spells which can make them finish that cast even with roots are off on them making them take more melee hits. (with the high chance that you will make the caster miss the spell on you if you los behind them which i use allday everyday) You can technically call that 'more dps' no?
I never (i really mean NEVER) got my predatory strikes buff dispelled

and lol yes
i put official as a joke at first and i forgot to change it (at first, it was named "f2p feral druid guide.... or just a tip" i wasnt really going to make a full guide but the second name was "f2p feral druid guide (why not?)" lol

Edit: how come i cant edit the title anymore? i just happened to find out how when i made this thread and i double clicked next to the title... it doesnt happen now

 

[DubbsBegins]

Me and Kahr will most likely collaborate for a Comprehensive Druid Guide with significant information and advice for all 3 specs

i actually think you guys should because i really do suck at explaining but i would like for you to consider what i think what the ideal feral druid talent points are for BGs. we can maybe debate on this thread i dont mind. dont deny difference

 

[Rollop]

Re: F2P Official Feral Druid Guide

you're never going to need to root a hunter, if he webs you or scatters you with no trinket, a good hunter is going to kill you anyway

This. I havent ran across a hunter yet that doesnt at least auto attack as they try to kite you. Unless you're playing a "support feral?" trying to root him for your team... i just dont see the point. best of luck with the guide though. i'd rather see at least one guide for ferals than there not be any at all..

 

[Stamm]

Dubbs....Just stop...This is like watching reruns of an air force training video with you getting shot down repeatedly. This thread has long since left any notion of guidance, and turned into an argument.

The rest of you. Stop feeding the troll. (Dubbs you're not a troll but the same concept still applies.)

The talent point spent is a matter of personal preference and I'm sure after reading this I'll give all of them a shot.

Please....lock the thread

 

[solvogero]

if you read all my posts, why are you saying things like this?

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Did I read it all? Sure. Did i try to figure out what you were saying all the time? No.

It goes back to presentation being more important than substance. Regardless of grammar (which is the 2nd language issue...and a minor one at that), a wall of badly formatted text and run-on thoughts looses readers attentions and your message gets totally lost. Your message will never get heard if you don't take the time to present it right. Why should someone take the time to try to figure out what you're saying if you're not taking the time to put it in a readable format?

When you put up a wall of dis-organized of info, a reader immediately focuses on what she/he thinks is important and only 1/2 processes the rest.

Form over substance...because substance will never be digested in bad form.

 

[DubbsBegins]

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Did I read it all? Sure. Did i try to figure out what you were saying all the time? No.

It goes back to presentation being more important than substance. Regardless of grammar (which is the 2nd language issue...and a minor one at that), a wall of badly formatted text and run-on thoughts looses readers attentions and your message gets totally lost. Your message will never get heard if you don't take the time to present it right. Why should someone take the time to try to figure out what you're saying if you're not taking the time to put it in a readable format?

When you put up a wall of dis-organized of info, a reader immediately focuses on what she/he thinks is important and only 1/2 processes the rest.

Form over substance...because substance will never be digested in bad form.

you are totally correct. I do try to take time to put it in a readable format. i constantly edit them. I can talk better than i type too many run-ons i make when i am typing. This thread became an argument thread because many people disagreed with me with a bad attitude, which is a bad way to approach a debatable things. So instead of going like "this isnt a guide" or "you dont know shit", why not try to have a peaceful debate? people just like to argue too much. ( im not saying this to you.. just in general)
anyways thanks for that i need to change the title once again.
btw how do you change the title of the thread?

 

[DubbsBegins]

Dubbs....Just stop...This is like watching reruns of an air force training video with you getting shot down repeatedly. This thread has long since left any notion of guidance, and turned into an argument.

The rest of you. Stop feeding the troll. (Dubbs you're not a troll but the same concept still applies.)

The talent point spent is a matter of personal preference and I'm sure after reading this I'll give all of them a shot.

Please....lock the thread

i didnt try to argue