how to unbind mindthrust bracers....

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  • So I was running SFK and mindthrust bracers dropped. There were no clothies in the group so I was hoping I'd get a roll at them. Unfortunately, a warrior in the group decided he needed them, which caused them to be soulbound. He ended up giving them to me. I tried to petition a GM saying it was a mistake on his part and that the item was intended to go to me so I can give to my clothed character. The GM was unwilling to unbind it because of the need before greed system and justified it by saying that players are given a warning that needing an item will bind it to you. I argued back that the same warning is given to people who accidentally delete an item/char or who accidentally equip an item. Yet GMs readily restore those items. He refused to budge saying that the two instances are different. Some nice words were exchanged and that was that. Anyone have any success in getting an item restored under these circumstances or are blizz GMs that hardheaded? Thanks.
     
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    GMs never unbind a item from an instance.

    You can't really say they "never" do this or they "always" do that 'cause GMs tend to be completely different and some weird stuff has been done before. Remember seeing a 19 with level 20 achievement for example :) So it's always worth a try. But yeah it probably won't happen.
     
    In this case I agree with the GM 110%. The system works the way it does for a very good reason. Back in the day when a rare BoE dropped, many people would utterly abuse the system by rolling need so they could obtain the item and try to sell it on the AH for an obscene amount of gold, or profit in some other way. They'd do this despite anyone else in the group's true need for the item, and the act was by definition an act of greed, not need. You'd hear all kinds of weak justifications for the abuse, but at the end of the day it all boiled down to self gain, and what people thought they could get away with.

    Fast forward to Cata and rolling need on BoE's (regarless of who rolled need) means you're committed to keeping the item, almost completely eliminating the problem described above. It was one of the best changes to the loot rolling system Blizzard has ever implemented, and when you think about it it makes perfect sense.

    So now I read your post, and I've got to be honest I'm far from sympathetic. Furthermore, I can't help but doubt a number of the details of your story. It's all rather convenient at absolving you of any wrongdoing. For all we know, there was a clothie in your group who needed the item, yet you rolled need and won over that player in the hope that you could circumvent the system by getting a GM to unbind the item, opening up the door for you to sell or send the item elsewhere. Call me overly cynical and suspicious, but after seeing the shit people would pull before the system change, this little stunt is far from far-fetched. I hope every GM sticks to their guns and turns your request down, period.

    You seem to be very emotionally invested in this situation. Care to tell us some more about how you feel?
     
    You seem to be very emotionally invested in my previous comment. I see no reason to elaborate further on the matter though, since I made myself clear the first time. Request denied. :)

    The only emotional investment around here is a three-paragraph wall of text devoted to bringing down another community member.
     
    So I was running SFK and mindthrust bracers dropped. There were no clothies in the group so I was hoping I'd get a roll at them. Unfortunately, a warrior in the group decided he needed them, which caused them to be soulbound. He ended up giving them to me. I tried to petition a GM saying it was a mistake on his part and that the item was intended to go to me so I can give to my clothed character. The GM was unwilling to unbind it because of the need before greed system and justified it by saying that players are given a warning that needing an item will bind it to you. I argued back that the same warning is given to people who accidentally delete an item/char or who accidentally equip an item. Yet GMs readily restore those items. He refused to budge saying that the two instances are different. Some nice words were exchanged and that was that. Anyone have any success in getting an item restored under these circumstances or are blizz GMs that hardheaded? Thanks.

    if you know some one in the group threw real id and there is still a 2 hour counter on the item group queue for an instance and trade it to them and back to you and it will be unbound, unfortuently gms are very very strict on unbinding items.
     
    Whoa! Three whole paragraphs. The sky is falling.

    Mate, I recommend you never make that complaint to a university professor the semester before a dissertation deadline. They'd "bertstare" you straight out of the room. Just sayin' ;)

    Anyway, this section is getting boring. I'll leave you to think about it. Bye for now o/

    You know you have no argument when reduced to comparing a 19 twink forum to a dissertation ;[
     
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    Maybe I were a little too hasty in my earlier post. I based my whole statement from what ONE GM said, so yeah probably not the most legitime answer :p

    Glad you might found a way to unbind it!

    Wish me good luck unbinding my Goblin Mail Leggings from my Warrior!!!
     
    GM's do not unbind items from instances, it would set a precedent, and you would have like classes needing on items intentionally to get items for their other players
     
    So if the best idea for rolling on gear in instances was the bind on need thing. What happens if you have some jerk just running around needing on stuff just to make people mad? That's the same as taking it from someone who needs it. So how exactly did that fix anything?
     
    There'll always be problems with rolling on BoE items; there are a lot of players in WoW that just love to screw others over for their own enjoyment, and there always will be. While it is still possible for players that don't even need the item to need it, it'll stop most of the people who needed the item to sell at least. I don't think there's a perfect fix for this. :(
     
    True disco, but some people (a lot who play this bracket) would much rather screw some one over than get gold :p.
     
    You sir are amazing, I'm going to give this a shot.

    Miacon on the other hand is a failed detective tink.

    I just tried with a SF on a 20 warr - This was the reply.

    Hey ******

    There were no bugs affecting your weapon, it is soulbound because you enchanted it which intentionally makes an item soulbound. This means we cannont unbind it from you.

    Regards
    Nymhelren

    Since when did enchanting a boe sword with lifestealing cause it to be bind to you? :D
     

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