19s Chardev Library

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I find this more informative than the armory thread due to people logging out in different sets anyway.
 
Gtfo said:
yes it is when your fc you try to get as much stam/resil as possible with retaining spell power, its not like your gonna be healing others you gonna just be casting your swiftmends/ regrowths on your self. therefore its bis
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Yea.. you basicly don't know anything about druid fcing. I agree with you that you need to stack up resil, but max stam is fail (Except if you're premade fcing, I haven't seen a druid premade fc in cata yet).
For PuG fcing you also need to stack up int and sp, because you're the only healer on D and your own heals can be an important way to survive. The golden pug fc rule: The more stam you stack the more you need to heal yourself !
You need to heal others. Example: if you have a cc mage on D, you need to try keep him alive, still with the subject that you can manage to get away from your opponents if the mage should die or something else..
/Owna
 
Ownaque said:
Yea.. you basicly don't know anything about druid fcing. I agree with you that you need to stack up resil, but max stam is fail (Except if you're premade fcing, I haven't seen a druid premade fc in cata yet).
For PuG fcing you also need to stack up int and sp, because you're the only healer on D and your own heals can be an important way to survive. The golden pug fc rule: The more stam you stack the more you need to heal yourself !
You need to heal others. Example: if you have a cc mage on D, you need to try keep him alive, still with the subject that you can manage to get away from your opponents if the mage should die or something else..
/Owna
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Ok what peices would u change that could possible offer a substantial amount of int and I never said max Stam is best that Is the bis fc set up check any Druid in armory, or ceck mine they all have this set up mabey you could throw in serpintis gloves or what ever there called from the wc quest honestly you case about the Mage is so selective of course I would heal him the possible difference of 7 or 10 int wouldn't effect your heals For the amount to sacrifice what ever the amount of Stam is, my set up has 134 sp and 86 int what do you possible propse to change your the only one who has made this argument rejen only dissiagreed with my belt chose but I didn't want to add in gathered gear, and a side note who are you I appreciate constructive criticism but when u actualy make a case with math to back it up showing how the 4 or what ever amount of int pet weights the amount of Stam I can esiely take 2 rogues in my set managing my CDs keeping one in roots and spamming moon fire on one with thorns up, my rejens still crit for 130 and swiftmend for 600 or so some times 700. Show me the peices you dissiagreed with and I'll go over the informatio, another case I could make is you don't have acces to the gear therefore try to defend boa helm is better ext

Im on my phone so sorry for spelling mistakes
 
Gtfo said:
Ok what peices would u change that could possible offer a substantial amount of int and I never said max Stam is best that Is the bis fc set up check any Druid in armory, or ceck mine they all have this set up mabey you could throw in serpintis gloves or what ever there called from the wc quest honestly you case about the Mage is so selective of course I would heal him the possible difference of 7 or 10 int wouldn't effect your heals For the amount to sacrifice what ever the amount of Stam is, my set up has 134 sp and 86 int what do you possible propse to change your the only one who has made this argument rejen only dissiagreed with my belt chose but I didn't want to add in gathered gear, and a side note who are you I appreciate constructive criticism but when u actualy make a case with math to back it up showing how the 4 or what ever amount of int pet weights the amount of Stam I can esiely take 2 rogues in my set managing my CDs keeping one in roots and spamming moon fire on one with thorns up, my rejens still crit for 130 and swiftmend for 600 or so some times 700. Show me the peices you dissiagreed with and I'll go over the informatio, another case I could make is you don't have acces to the gear therefore try to defend boa helm is better ext

Im on my phone so sorry for spelling mistakes
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Only thing to say: Check 19 druid guides in a couple of weeks, me and Macchiato is at doing a 19 druid fc guide.
/Owna
 
Ownaque said:
Only thing to say: Check 19 druid guides in a couple of weeks, me and Macchiato is at doing a 19 druid fc guide.
/Owna
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ok thanks for adressing my questions much apreciated

[item]Lucky Fishing Hat[/item] > [item]Preened Tribal War Feathers[/item] > [item]Green Tinted Goggles[/item]

[item]Sentinel's Medallion[/item] > [item]Thick Bronze Necklace[/item]

[item]Lasting Feralheart Spaulders[/item] > [item]Exquisite Sunderseer Mantle[/item], [item]Preened Ironfeather Shoulders[/item]

[item]Tumultuous Cloak[/item] of Stamina, [item]Tumultuous Cloak[/item] of the Sorcerer [5resist all > 70 armor]

[item]Preened Ironfeather Breastplate[/item] > [item]Toughened Leather armor[/item] [100hp > 4stats]

[item]Bracers of the Ancient Grove[/item](A) > [item]Wranglers Wristbands[/item] of Stamina > [item]Uninsured Bracers[/item](H) [9stam]

[item]Jutebraid Gloves[/item](!) > [item]Serpentis Gloves[/item] > [item]Gold-flecked Glove[/item] [10haste > 16sp]

[item]Aquarius Belt[/item] > [item]Girdle of the Blindwatcher[/item], [item]Keeshan's Cord[/item]

[item]Sacred Burial Trousers[/item](!) > [item]Fine Leather Pants[/item] [16 armor]

[item]Spidersilk Boots[/item] [7stam]

[item]Seal of Sylvanas[/item](!) > [item]Seal of Wrynn[/item](!) > [item]Seal of Argas[/item]

[item]Seal of Argas[/item] > [item]Garrosh's Pardon[/item](H) > [item]Ello's Band[/item](A)

[item]Arena Grand Master[/item] > [item]Minor Recombobulator[/item]

[item]Inherited Insignia of the Alliance[/item] > [item]Insignia of the Alliance[/item] > [item]Arena Grand Master[/item]

[item]Grand Staff of Jordan[/item] > [item]The Blessed Hammer of Grace[/item] > [item]Dawnblade[/item] + [item]Furbolg Medicine Pouch[/item] [22int]

strait from the guide ill check when there up
 
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I think the mods will only sticky nice threads. This isn't becoming a very nice thread. Too much controversy.
 
Mehcritkillu said:
This whole thread is pointless and you're not really making it look better when not being able to accept criticism from more experienced players.
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im open to taking advice from everyone i only dissiagreed with one person no one else has told me what to change all they have said is blank and blank gear differend not explaining what i need to change, id love for people to list what i should change just no one has besides a few...
 
Gtfo said:
im open to taking advice from everyone i only dissiagreed with one person no one else has told me what to change all they have said is blank and blank gear differend not explaining what i need to change, id love for people to list what i should change just no one has besides a few...
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Elemental
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Restroation -> Shaman Links are not working:)
 
I think once the kinks are worked out this thread is a great idea. As previously mentioned people often log out in different gear, or even change specs. This guide also doesn't list unobtainable grandfathered gear. I say great idea, and good job.

A suggestion though. You may want to at some point add a comment to some of the specs letting people know that a faction change is required to achieve BIS gear. (I can see people asking how to get 2 seal of argas etc...)
 
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