[Horde Eu]WotLK dungeon's Achieve farming group

This is only from a helping perspective, but you should really get some better gear.. you can get full epic from just Jp..
And your gear isnt enchanted either.

-Also..
if you really want the glory of the hero mount, then just get a blood DK and a random DPS..
Then it will be solo able..
Or if you're dps is good enough, just a blood DK.. I got my brother to help me with my two last achis, and it was insanely easy. :)
 
U know how hard is to get Justice Points when no one que for WotLK dungeons, Ahn'Qiraj realm is totally dead so no one does WotLK raids either, sometimes i get luckand after 2 hours waiting que pop and u do some dungeons,im bored of that, i want to get some people who would like to do dungeons without insane amount of time waiting in que.Also only blood DK i know which is geared refused to help, my gear isnt that bad either, i wont waste my gold on enchanting/sockets until i get BiS or not far from it WotLK gear (keep in mind my account is WotLK not Cata), so are u intrested in helping me/others?
 
Weird..
My queues are always around 10min. for both HORDE and ALLI! (This is in dps spec) - EU..
If not, then queue up for some BG's, get some real ID's, from people you like...

IF you go alliance, then i would love to help you :)


-Also..
If you havent already used it, then get a 10 day cata trial..
In that time you will be able to get all the cata items you will need for BiS + you can lvl your proffesions to 525..

- You will be able to keep everything after you've lvled..
Just remember to stop XP gain.
 
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Ye,that is nice thread u make, but i don't know... using cataclysm items as level 80 twink ruins all the fun,and today after 2 hours in Rdf que i found few people who were intrested in doing some dungeons for achieves,but i still lack some more. I didn't used cata trial yet...idk i may think about that...
 
Don't u think 2 parts of tier 8 for nice set bonuses would be more worth than 2x or wrathful as u could stack that resil u loose because of t8,but u woudl gain stormstrike and lava lash damage increase by 20 % which is really high amount.
 
Nope,the Loss of stats comapring t10 to t8 is not that big comparing 20 % damage increase to your main melee abilities that none stats could give
 
Um, 51 ilevels is quite a lot.

Comparing shoulders:

t10
136 agi
161 stam
socket
128 crit
63 haste

t8
77 agi
127 stam
socket (4 crit bonus)
56 crit
48 expertise

So it's
59 agi
34 stam
72 crit
63 haste

vs
48 expertise.

And that isn't even on a high itemisation part like a helm. Barely worth it, there was a reason people never did back when. (plus the t10 2set, you know). If you're after pvp, it doesn't even come close to the loss in survival.
 
Um, 51 ilevels is quite a lot.

Comparing shoulders:

t10
136 agi
161 stam
socket
128 crit
63 haste

t8
77 agi
127 stam
socket (4 crit bonus)
56 crit
48 expertise

So it's
59 agi
34 stam
72 crit
63 haste

vs
48 expertise.

And that isn't even on a high itemisation part like a helm. Barely worth it, there was a reason people never did back when. (plus the t10 2set, you know). If you're after pvp, it doesn't even come close to the loss in survival.

I think his point was not the 48 expertise, more like the set bonus effect.
 
I think his point was not the 48 expertise, more like the set bonus effect.

Then it comes down to (if you ignore the stats, which you kinda can't)

12% damage increase for 15sec on shamanistic rage (1min cd)

vs

a 20% increase to lava lash. Which, going by this shaman (top enhance on ultraxion 25H), is a 20% increase to ~15% of his damage. so a 3% boost. given that pvp is all about burst, I'm gonna take the first option, just because it works better for that purpose.
 
I think his point was not the 48 expertise, more like the set bonus effect.

pretty sure that was his point but i veryyyy highly doubt (read: too lazy to do actual math) that t8 set bonus is worth it over t10/wrathful. primary and, to a slightly lesser extent, secondary stats are just so good that old sets go by the way side no matter how good the bonus is. the last time a set bonus long outlived its self was like BC and that was ferals using t4 bonus into t6 raids for clearcasting (iirc, could be wrong). and i remember a hunter on one of my servers using 258 2pc + 277 gear for a little while too. but by and large, old set bonuses arent worth it - and thats in their design. devs want you to do new raids for new gear, not do new raids and have no incentive gearwise..that and sets from launch usually have worse bonuses to further incentivise you whereas the last tier of an xpac usually has really sick bonuses to draw you in and keep you using it till newer, better gear comes out.


oh and as far as i remembered helm chest shoulders and legs had the highest itemization points, but i think thats been pretty much normalized now (tho helms still have a bit of preference due to metas and what not, and gloves bracers, etc. might still be a little bit lower than the others)
 
It was helm chest legs, usually denoted by the cost/number of sockets on the items. It was indeed, but most of the time people using 258 set bonuses was because it broke even with 277, and you had limited tier tokens. as for t4 vs t6 for ferals, the t4 bonus was INSANE for them, and the t6 bonus only became useful recently, with the changes. the difference in stats then was also very small (small ilevel increases)

226 vs 277? It's not really close, at all.
 
i don't care about PvP because all level 80 twinks runs with cataclysm items which in my opinion is boring, also 'im intrested in PvE only because i already had my Gladiator title as beastcleave back in WotLK but i never raided then,and imo 2 peace set bonus or t8 and 2 set bonus of t 10.5 would be better than 4 peace tier 10.5 bonuses.Need to do tests but too hard to get tokkens while people make icc raids with 85 level mains only.
 
3% overall damage increase vs 15% chance to get 20% ap for 10 sec. The 4set gets better the more gear you have, and I'm gonna take a guess at how much AP an enhancement will have (given that it's an agi user, so rather high), puts that buff at around the 2k AP mark. I'm sure that + the extra stats is worth it, t10 set bonuses have a habit of being good (even the broken ones, such as 2pc retribution)
 
i don't care about PvP because all level 80 twinks runs with cataclysm items which in my opinion is boring, also 'im intrested in PvE only because i already had my Gladiator title as beastcleave back in WotLK but i never raided then,and imo 2 peace set bonus or t8 and 2 set bonus of t 10.5 would be better than 4 peace tier 10.5 bonuses.Need to do tests but too hard to get tokkens while people make icc raids with 85 level mains only.

its not worth it for pve or pvp
if youre looking to raid and youre eu why not sign up for the cross realm raids
 

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