Chardev for feral
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Imirak
Legend
The top player in pvp kills is a feral druid (see http://twinkinfo.com/f2p-twinking/30245-f2p-rankings-pve-pvp.html)
You might get some good ideas there
Arknoodle
Legend
Think shft is balance
Goldendeyss @ Aerie Peak - Game Guide - World of Warcraft is BiS minus RoP, LFH, agm.
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Goldendeyss @ Aerie Peak - Game Guide - World of Warcraft is BiS minus RoP, LFH, agm.
If decide alliance my armory is in my sig
Atychiphobia
OG
Damn he has even 2 druids:
Goldendayss @ Aerie Peak - Game Guide - World of Warcraft balance
Goldendeyss @ Aerie Peak - Game Guide - World of Warcraft feral
Umpteenth
OG
that bastard is changing on me.
Imirak
Legend
Thanks!
R Prime
OG
Would suggest foreman's gloves for expertise.
Black wolf bracers would put you over 20% crit.
Double AGM is nice - I'd suggest insig w/ resil. as an alternative.
Shoulders - if you keep the pants (for hit) would suggest go with the pvp resil shoulders. Druids are squishy.
If you happen to get RoP or Drakewings then you can rearrange alot of items to keep the hit cap and up either stam or agi.
Black wolf bracers would put you over 20% crit.
Double AGM is nice - I'd suggest insig w/ resil. as an alternative.
Shoulders - if you keep the pants (for hit) would suggest go with the pvp resil shoulders. Druids are squishy.
If you happen to get RoP or Drakewings then you can rearrange alot of items to keep the hit cap and up either stam or agi.
solvogero
Legend
i've never really looked at anything with expertise on it...is there any level 20 expertise math out there?
agree.
Imirak
Legend
Until you get BiS pieces, the 3-piece Fang set bonus (4 expertise) is the only other source of expertise for leather-wearers.
solvogero
Legend
yeah, 2.3%. i think i'd have to think about that...
Let's say the average dodge rate for agility wearers is 20%. so do you subtract (20-2.3=17.7% dodge rate)....or multiply (20*.977=19.54% dodge rate)?
Edit: looks like its subtract.
either way you're really only talking about missing rogues, druids, and some hunters (the ones you can get to) and only when they're facing you....not sure if 2 agility and 7 stam is worth that.
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Imirak
Legend
I agree. It's most helpful for a niche pve grinding set for high-level mobs.
solvogero
Legend
I'm rethinking my stance on Expertise and the gloves. Maybe they are worth it.
I have roughly 110 AP at 20 and the loss of the 2 agility would be -4 AP (or about -4%) for the Expertise gloves. If these were PvE fights, I'd say the Expertise definitely isn't worth it....but in PvP fights, I don't loose by 4%; I loose by not landing that one stinkin' hit that didn't land right before the opponent gets hit with a nice fat heal.
A Dodge only pushes your damage back by the GCD (and then in long fights it doesn't even do that as you'd spend some time regenerating energy anyway...unless he dodged your very first attack, the time isn't wasted), but assuming of course that he had dodged one of my prior hits in that scenario, Expertise would save the day.
I've had a LOT of pally's down to 1-hit-from-death before they got a heal off and I'm not sure if any of those involved dodges (probably not), but 4% more damage wouldn't have changed anything...another hit would have.
...none of that mentions the loss of 7 stam of course...but offensively, I think the gloves very much boil down to personal preference (also not to mention that fact that I never see Expertise on 20's and its therefore rather sexy).
I have roughly 110 AP at 20 and the loss of the 2 agility would be -4 AP (or about -4%) for the Expertise gloves. If these were PvE fights, I'd say the Expertise definitely isn't worth it....but in PvP fights, I don't loose by 4%; I loose by not landing that one stinkin' hit that didn't land right before the opponent gets hit with a nice fat heal.
A Dodge only pushes your damage back by the GCD (and then in long fights it doesn't even do that as you'd spend some time regenerating energy anyway...unless he dodged your very first attack, the time isn't wasted), but assuming of course that he had dodged one of my prior hits in that scenario, Expertise would save the day.
I've had a LOT of pally's down to 1-hit-from-death before they got a heal off and I'm not sure if any of those involved dodges (probably not), but 4% more damage wouldn't have changed anything...another hit would have.
...none of that mentions the loss of 7 stam of course...but offensively, I think the gloves very much boil down to personal preference (also not to mention that fact that I never see Expertise on 20's and its therefore rather sexy).
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