Operation Godfrey - Can F2Ps hit 21?

[iaccidentallytwink]

It all started here. Can an F2P go from 19 to 21 in one go? The question made my mind run wild immediately. I knew that even if it would be a waste and I'd stop 1 XP from 21 I would give it a shot. This myth must be solved. And I WILL be the one to do it.​

At least 16601 XP is needed to go from 19 to 21 in one go. 3050 XP is given by the random dungeon finder. Refer a Friend adds +300% XP, Heirlooms add +20% XP, and a 5 man group adds a +40% XP bonus. Totals out to +360% XP. I have verified that they do all indeed stack.​

4612 XP * 3.60 = 16603 XP. Completing a random dungeon at 19 gives 3050 XP. That leaves us 1562* XP to clear. I tested 2 20s 2-manning Mutanus the Devourer (level 20 boss). That gave me 1045 XP. Getting there, but not quite.​

XP awarded goes up if the AVERAGE level of your group is lower. The lowest level to enter SFK is 11. I've come up with the absolute ideal setup for this mission.



3 level 11 characters. Any will do, 1 must be a P2P.

The level 15 P2P that is Referring the trial.

The level 17 - 22 P2P that will be forming the group in the dungeon.

The level 19 F2P that is going to *hopefully* hit 21, must have Shoulder and Chest heirlooms.

The high level toon that will clear up to the boss while the others are zoned out.



The scenario will set up like this;

The 19 F2P will group up with the 17 - 22 P2P. Once inside, the rest of the group is kicked. The P2P invites the high level to clear the dungeon up to Godfrey. Once cleared, the high level leaves the party. The P2P invites the P2P level 11 and leaves, that toon then invites the other 2 level 11s, and the 15 P2P RaF partner.

This forms the ideal group of a level 19 with his RaF partner in range for receiving the RaF XP bonus, as well as the level 11s to lower the average level of the group.



(19 + 15 + (3*11))/5 = 13.4 is the average level of the group.

This puts the XP multiple at the highest possible point. 1562* XP (or 2138 XP) is all that the 19 needs to be awarded in order to make the jump from 19 to 21 in one fell swoop.



What can you do to help?

Create a level 11, or offer to be the 17 - 22 P2P that will help shape the perfect scenario. I have none of the 3 level 11s I need. I also require a level 15 to test this theory. I have a level 20 with XP-on for testing with 3 level 11s, and the 15. If the level 20 can get 1562* XP from Godfrey, the level 19 will be all set. Test runs will be taking place within the next few days, and if we can get far enough over the 1562* XP mark the +20% from heirlooms may not be required (and this will remove tons of hours of farming for gold and then honor).

*Full group XP bonus is not yet fully tested. If this fails the plan will go ahead without the +40% XP bonus, changing the calculations slightly. 5188 XP * 3.20 = 16601 XP. Leaving 2138 XP to clear instead of 1562 XP.​

I have a level 19 Free-to-Play Warrior ready if the test runs go as planned.



So what do you say? Interested in making twink history? Let me know.



also posted on my blog here.

 

[KainUFC]

You are a mad genius

 

[Wrats]

Ambitious. I like. Do the level 11s need to be a specific class or XP locked? I happen to have a level 11 warlock. I'd be happy to help, though his spells would probably be resisted quite a bit.

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

Ambitious. I like. Do the level 11s need to be a specific class or XP locked? I happen to have a level 11 warlock. I'd be happy to help, though his spells would probably be resisted quite a bit.

No criteria for the level 11s, except 1 must be a pay to play.

 

[Sanctuary]

Once we all hit 88 MPH... you're going to see some serious shit.

 

[Aradiel]

My guess is that you'll hit 20 and have full XP so that if you ever do pay you'll be able to hit 21 immediately. Feel free to prove me wrong. Worth doing just so you can say you tried.

 

[Tooh87]

Best of luck with this idea. It's interesting to say the least..

 

[Playroom]

A friend of mine noticed that this would be possible in theory and asked me if there was a way of getting 16.6kxp at once, I immediately turned the other way and disregarded his question, because I naturally didn't think of the RaF which does the real job!



I'm going to side with Aradiel on this one, chances are you're going to get stuck at (full - 1), but tbh I'm really hopping you prove us wrong! If you achieve this, u're going to push the boundary for us therefore wish you all the best!

I'm willing to help in any way that you need! Should I level the two Lvl11 f2p? Just let me know...!

 

[bvalks]

it won't work, your experience is automatically locked when you hit 20 just as if you hit 85 on a paid account

 

[Raunchy]

Great stuff, such attempts at finding ways to optimize your character is what twinking is all about. Even if there's a lousy 1% chance this is possible it's still worth the attempt. Good luck!

 

[RandyHale]

it won't work, your experience is automatically locked when you hit 20 just as if you hit 85 on a paid account

explains my XP bar saying that I'm 599xp/16600 to 21.

 

[yasueh]

...a 5 man group adds a +40% XP bonus.

After the XP reward from the mob has been divided by the number of members in the party.



The only time grouping will give a player more XP per kill than playing solo is if you are comparing a party of 2 using RaF, to a solo player without rested bonus. The main XP per hour gain from grouping is due to the increased speed at which a party can kill mobs. That has to be offset by a funtion to reduce the amount of XP each member gets per kill, in order to keep parties from gaining XP significantly faster than solo players.







For a mob that gives eg. 100xp:



Solo without rested bonus:



XP from kill = 100xp







With RaF:

(mob xp / (party size * group bonus) ) * RaF

• Where group bonus is:
  
• 1 for a party of 2
  
• 1,166 for a party of 3
  
• 1.3 for a party of 4
  
• 1.4 for a party of 5 (where the 40% comes from)
  

XP from kill = (100 / (2 * 1)) * 3 = 150xp







Solo with rested:

mob xp x rested bonus



XP from kill = 100 x 2 = 200xp





You will get the most XP from soloing the boss with full rested bonus.

 

[Tinkerton]

My guess is that you'll hit 20 and have full XP so that if you ever do pay you'll be able to hit 21 immediately. Feel free to prove me wrong. Worth doing just so you can say you tried.

Considering that if you e.g. Cata-Trial your WotLK account, you'll end up 1 xp away from dinging 81 even when that last Quest turn should place you over it, this seems the most likely scenario.



That being said, this is exactly the kind of zaniness I like about Twinking, and if you can pull this experiment off, bully to you

!

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

After the XP reward from the mob has been divided by the number of members in the party.



The only time grouping will give a player more XP per kill than playing solo is if you are comparing a party of 2 using RaF, to a solo player without rested bonus. The main XP per hour gain from grouping is due to the increased speed at which a party can kill mobs. That has to be offset by a funtion to reduce the amount of XP each member gets per kill, in order to keep parties from gaining XP significantly faster than solo players.







For a mob that gives eg. 100xp:



Solo without rested bonus:



XP from kill = 100xp







With RaF:

(mob xp / (party size * group bonus) ) * RaF

• Where group bonus is:
  
• 1 for a party of 2
  
• 1,166 for a party of 3
  
• 1.3 for a party of 4
  
• 1.4 for a party of 5 (where the 40% comes from)
  

XP from kill = (100 / (2 * 1)) * 3 = 150xp













Solo with rested:

mob xp x rested bonus



XP from kill = 100 x 2 = 200xp





You will get the most XP from soloing the boss with full rested bonus.

I knew there was something i was missing. Time to fix the first post.

Rested won't work for this, however, because the random dungeon XP is not divided, and the extra 6k is definitely needed.

Also, if the average level of the group is 13.4, I think it will award far more XP than 2 17s.

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

A friend of mine noticed that this would be possible in theory and asked me if there was a way of getting 16.6kxp at once, I immediately turned the other way and disregarded his question, because I naturally didn't think of the RaF which does the real job!



I'm going to side with Aradiel on this one, chances are you're going to get stuck at (full - 1), but tbh I'm really hopping you prove us wrong! If you achieve this, u're going to push the boundary for us therefore wish you all the best!

I'm willing to help in any way that you need! Should I level the two Lvl11 f2p? Just let me know...!

I'd love some help with the level 11s. They need to be on separate accounts though, obviously, so they can group together.

 

[Kore nametooshort]

You are a mad genius

Indeed, but brilliant! There's no precedent for it, so who knows what might happen!

 

[C O T U S]

if i'm not mistaken, the final boss of BFD is not immune to concussive shot



he would give more XP than godfrey anyway



you could solo him as a hunter and this would probably get you the most XP possible for this



edit: nm can't do bfd at 19

 

[C O T U S]

but yeah godfrey is definitely soloable, i've done it before on my hunter before he was even geared

 

[Kore nametooshort]

Just make sure you don't ding from discovering anything ^^ You should have that paranoia ingrained into you anyway though

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

but yeah godfrey is definitely soloable, i've done it before on my hunter before he was even geared

How!? That bastard's ghouls wipe me so fast.