Lets talk pre cata items

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I have venom web fang
 
I also have naraxis' fang but I think it's over level 20
 
Lupine axe and slayer battleaxe still drops from what I remember (7.0)
 
None of them drop, only way to get is if someone still has them, I have a few bound and unbound on EU.
 
SPQR said:
I know with cata alot of mobs got drops nuked but i wonder if anyone here looted items listed bellow past rewamp.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=5182/shiver-blade
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1220/lupine-axe
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5749/scythe-axe
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1461/slayers-battle-axe
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1387/ghoulfang
http://www.wowhead.com/item=5112/ritual-blade
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1287/giant-tarantula-fang
http://www.wowhead.com/item=899/venom-web-fang
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I can tell you that many of those are GFd through my own trial and error and asking several GMs.

Ghoulfang, shiver blade, giant turantula fang, ritual blade are all ones GMs have confirmed removed. But I will go ahead and say that they're probably all GFd.

People saying they have them is vague. I have many of those items but they were not acquired recently from the mobs that once dropped them.
 
Imnotabelf said:
I can tell you that many of those are GFd through my own trial and error and asking several GMs.

Ghoulfang, shiver blade, giant turantula fang, ritual blade are all ones GMs have confirmed removed. But I will go ahead and say that they're probably all GFd.

People saying they have them is vague. I have many of those items but they were not acquired recently from the mobs that once dropped them.
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After all this years of seeing gm's "do things" i wouldn't count on their judgement.
i think lack of people farming items is the reason we dont know for sure.

Seen one goldmaking video about a week ago and number of different people said they had http://www.wowhead.com/item=880/staff-of-horrors droping for them. Sure different zones may have different changes over years but it still may be possible to get some.

Now I personally farmed shiver blade for around 8 month with more or less daily kills and haven't seen it drop. it is possible duskwood drops are still out there.

Anyways thx for input.
 
Here's something to go by with gfed boss drops in the open world.

There was a reason the Shadowfang only dropped from certain bosses before they fixed it.

In order for a boss to drop an item their level needs to be the same or higher than the item level.

For example http://www.wowhead.com/item=880/staff-of-horrors will not drop.

This is because the item is ilvl 23 but the mobs are only level 20-21.
 
Holythane said:
Here's something to go by with gfed boss drops in the open world.

There was a reason the Shadowfang only dropped from certain bosses before they fixed it.

In order for a boss to drop an item their level needs to be the same or higher than the item level.

For example http://www.wowhead.com/item=880/staff-of-horrors will not drop.

This is because the item is ilvl 23 but the mobs are only level 20-21.
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Actually its even more complicated than that. Im banking on typical sloppy blizzard™ coding.


Example: Tarantulas in Redridge are still the same level they were in PreCata meaning their ilvl hasnt changed. But they do not drop Giant Tarantula Fangs.

Another example: Lo'Grosh, now a level 27 mob (was lvl 39) that still drops his mob specific Ilvl 37 weapon/armor which is waaay too high ilvl.

Or Murloc Oracle, now lvl 13 mobs still drop their Foamspittle Staves(ilvl 17). Yet all other mobs in Westfall(not counting the quest defias) have lost their mob only loot. I can provide a dozen more examples but im sure 3 is plenty.

Something was hardcoded to stop them from dropping. Most likely a typo somewhere
 
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inoobupro said:
Actually its even more complicated than that. Im banking on typical sloppy blizzard™ coding.


Example: Tarantulas in Redridge are still the same level they were in PreCata meaning their ilvl hasnt changed. But they do not drop Giant Tarantula Fangs.

Another example: Lo'Grosh, now a level 27 mob (was lvl 39) that still drops his mob specific Ilvl 37 weapon/armor which is waaay too high ilvl.

Or Murloc Oracle, now lvl 13 mobs still drop their Foamspittle Staves(ilvl 17). Yet all other mobs in Westfall(not counting the quest defias) have lost their mob only loot. I can provide a dozen more examples but im sure 3 is plenty.

Something was hardcoded to stop them from dropping. Most likely a typo somewhere
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There are only a few exceptions majority of them do not drop (tested with farming, wowhead comments and the fact that some of the items are hardly on the AH).
 
Yes I know that(infact I memorized all of the exceptions, get @ me)

But then why do some drop and some dont, Knowing blizzard its not like they manually went and checked each item "alright lets make sure that Giant Tarantula Fang doesn't drop but that Pacifier does".
 
inoobupro said:
Actually its even more complicated than that. Im banking on typical sloppy blizzard™ coding.


Example: Tarantulas in Redridge are still the same level they were in PreCata meaning their ilvl hasnt changed. But they do not drop Giant Tarantula Fangs.

Another example: Lo'Grosh, now a level 27 mob (was lvl 39) that still drops his mob specific Ilvl 37 weapon/armor which is waaay too high ilvl.

Or Murloc Oracle, now lvl 13 mobs still drop their Foamspittle Staves(ilvl 17). Yet all other mobs in Westfall(not counting the quest defias) have lost their mob only loot. I can provide a dozen more examples but im sure 3 is plenty.

Something was hardcoded to stop them from dropping. Most likely a typo somewhere
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On this note, http://www.wowhead.com/npc=947/rohh-the-silent drops items higher level than himself. I remember trying to farm the blue dagger he would drop (never got it though :(). The green items could be higher level than he was.

With regards to the items, I'm fairly certain I saw the http://www.wowhead.com/item=5112/ritual-blade&spec=253 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=1220/lupine-axe&spec=253 drop in recent times, well at least in WoD. Whether it was from a drop or from a Garrison crate before it got nerfed I can't recall but I've certainly seen these 2 items drop back in WoD. It may have even been a dungeon drop which sounds random but I did see these.
 
icehawk said:
On this note, http://www.wowhead.com/npc=947/rohh-the-silent drops items higher level than himself. I remember trying to farm the blue dagger he would drop (never got it though :(). The green items could be higher level than he was.

With regards to the items, I'm fairly certain I saw the http://www.wowhead.com/item=5112/ritual-blade&spec=253 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=1220/lupine-axe&spec=253 drop in recent times, well at least in WoD. Whether it was from a drop or from a Garrison crate before it got nerfed I can't recall but I've certainly seen these 2 items drop back in WoD. It may have even been a dungeon drop which sounds random but I did see these.
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had to be from a crate
 
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