EU+US Why Twinking has become better in Legion. Asking about the attitude problem.

Stizzy said:
LMFAO did you just say that endgame is the equivalent of a hamster wheel, and then imply that level 19 twinking is something more complex ? haha gtfo
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That is how they rationalize it to themselves when when they state that 19's are the 'competitive' bracket.

/cheers
 
Wildur said:
Cmon now, you didn't even read what he wrote. He already said that he tested it with recount and the dmgs were same. And from my personal experience the stats shown are the stats you get and they matter very little. If you are not a wand user and have proper armor type in every slot the ilevels make minimal difference, even if they were all ilevel 1.
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No, he said, "The stat difference is so little..." But the stats alone don't tell you what the results will be. Use random low lvl gear (correct armor type) with any generic weapon, vs. Fel or highest ilvl (like 2 The Rocks and Griftah neck, trinkets) including best weapon. The output will be noticeably better.

I have 20+ toons, mostly 100 or below twinks - mage, warlocks, warrs, shamans, monks, priests, hunter, DK. All of them show better output as ilvl is maxed and it's not a small difference.
 
Walrusbreath said:
No, he said, "The stat difference is so little..." But the stats alone don't tell you what the results will be. Use random low lvl gear (correct armor type) with any generic weapon, vs. Fel or highest ilvl (like 2 The Rocks and Griftah neck, trinkets) including best weapon. The output will be noticeably better.

I have 20+ toons, mostly 100 or below twinks - mage, warlocks, warrs, shamans, monks, priests, hunter, DK. All of them show better output as ilvl is maxed and it's not a small difference.
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How the fk are you still arguing this point? He literally took 2 pictures showing the difference between the gear. You're chatting shit right now, if you're so sure that the "output will be noticeably better" please take some pictures and prove it.

You also mention high ilvl gear, which has nothing to do with the GF'd gear. Basically every twink can very easily get the rings/neck.
 
IDGAF what his stats say. That's not the point. Pix would do no good b/c you'd say I was either padding numbers with the good gear or sitting afk with the low gear, whatever.
 
Walrusbreath said:
No, he said, "The stat difference is so little..." But the stats alone don't tell you what the results will be. Use random low lvl gear (correct armor type) with any generic weapon, vs. Fel or highest ilvl (like 2 The Rocks and Griftah neck, trinkets) including best weapon. The output will be noticeably better.
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You have to learn to read better
Vianco said:
based on 4 games with recount/dmg meter my spells do the exact same average dmg.
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Allybeboba said:
That is how they rationalize it to themselves when when they state that 19's are the 'competitive' bracket.

/cheers
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They? When you misquote someone who themselves misquoted something does that make you twice the idiot?
Reread the comments if you're still confused. The straw man argument that most twinks just want to stomp levelers has been debunked countless times.
 
Vianco said:
You have to learn to read better
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I'll put it this way: I know what I see on my toons in actual play in instances and on others' toons, not just taking screens of my char stats. You however can keep drinking the Blizz Kool Aid. They have oceans of it ready to go.
 
Walrusbreath said:
IDGAF what his stats say. That's not the point. Pix would do no good b/c you'd say I was either padding numbers with the good gear or sitting afk with the low gear, whatever.
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Actual stat comparisons using something like recount would not be affected by "sitting afk". No one wants to see end-of-game damage in a WSG.
 
Ohai said:
Actual stat comparisons using something like recount would not be affected by "sitting afk". No one wants to see end-of-game damage in a WSG.
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Except end-of-game damage seems to be what he was asking for as screens.

STFU Ohai. You lost in the other thread, don't bring your horseshit over to this one, hmm?
 
@Walrusbreath what are you still doing? You provided zero evidence and no one else believes you

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Walrusbreath said:
Except end-of-game damage seems to be what he was asking for as screens
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I asked for evidence. I never said asked for end of game screenshots, what the fuk would that tell me? Every game is different. I would like to see damage meters with avg dmg on spells.
 
Walrusbreath said:
I'll put it this way: I know what I see on my toons in actual play in instances and on others' toons, not just taking screens of my char stats. You however can keep drinking the Blizz Kool Aid. They have oceans of it ready to go.
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Damn its all a conspiracy. Thanks for letting us know.
 
Walrusbreath said:
Except end-of-game damage seems to be what he was asking for as screens.

STFU Ohai. You lost in the other thread, don't bring your horseshit over to this one, hmm?
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You are living in your own little world and it's overcrowded.

The post you quoted above asking for screens specifically said "He already said that he tested it with recount and the dmgs were same.". Did you fail remedial English as well as your statistics class?

Your evidence is something about Kool-Aid, which is at least logically consistent with your conspiracy theory in the other thread.

I'll help you and elaborate: the recount addon is a third party addon that will let you see your damage per spell in explicit detail. If you're right, you should be able to demonstrably prove it.
 
Vianco said:


I asked for evidence. I never said asked for end of game screenshots, what the fuk would that tell me? Every game is different. I would like to see damage meters with avg dmg on spells.
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Why don't you show us how "gear doesn't matter" in the way I mentioned, not with just a few ilvl difference of nearly the same gear? You keep harping the same shit.

That is after all what Blizz's claim has been since Legion right, that gear doesn't matter? Just hop in an instance as a new ding with random shit gear and you'll be the same as everyone else. There's no more gear grind, you don't need decent gear!

Except the RNG grind they replaced it with.
 
Walrusbreath said:
That is after all what Blizz's claim has been since Legion right, that gear doesn't matter? Just hop in an instance as a new ding with random shit gear and you'll be the same as everyone else. There's no more gear grind, you don't need decent gear!
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what do blizzard gain by lying
 
Eoneth said:
what do blizzard gain by lying
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The same thing they've always gained from any of their lies - more profit. Especially now that they don't measure it by sub numbers anymore (since so many have left WoW they stopped reporting it), but instead by overall time subbed/time-in-game. It's in their best interests to drag out your time as long as possible.

If you kids think a multi-billion dollar corp. isn't blowing smoke up your asses on a daily basis, I have a bridge in Kansas to sell ya.
 
Walrusbreath said:
I think it's pretty obvious. If you don't know by now then I'll never be able to tell you.
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i'll give you time to think of something, don't worry. don't push me off with that awful reply belittling me while acting all superior for knowing.

i'll give you time to think of some half-assed explanation, don't worry. go ahead, take your time.
 
If you're either too dumb to figure out how increasing the grind through RNG helps their profit, or too much of a Blizz fanboy then what else can I say?
 
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