What is a reasonable premade size?

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  1. Charax

    Charax Battleground Superstar

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    Yesterday, I ran into a 10-man premade for Mankrik. No big deal - I wait for the team to fill up, then /afk out and queue a different toon to try and get a better match.

    I was wondering why some players would even queue a full 10 man twink premade? If you're not having a scheduled fight, what's the point? To faceroll and not face any reasonable resistance?

    Ignoring whatever rationale that faceroll losers might come up with, what is a reasonable premade size to group queue with? If I was to throw out a number, I'd say no more than four, assuming you're looking for the occasional challenge.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. ZenwØw

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    I solo Q
     
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  3. Symandria

    Symandria Grandfathered

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    So 10 man is reasonable... but it might not be to faceroll. Most of the time I Q with my gf, but if others happen to be on I usually invite them and Q with them as well. And it's not about increasing win-rate it's all about camaraderie and just being friends : ) As a negative side effect if your premade is too large the games become much less interesting. I haven't happened to Q with more than 6 people yet, luckily : )
     
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  4. IhazBankz

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    maybe they need rep and queing 10 man to end games in 5 mins is the quickest way for that =]
     
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  5. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    the only acceptable group size is the number im queing with or smaller.
     
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  6. Duro

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    10 people. Because are you really going to go out of you way to exclude your guildies online looking for a group. Regardless if its fair or not, its a lot of fun to hangout with 10 people. The bonus is that you make alliance man-children cry.
     
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    Charax

    Charax Battleground Superstar

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    I do as well.

    It's not hard to form two 5-man groups.

    Some people say it's a social experience or they might do it for rep farming but you're doing it at the detriment of our small community. Excessive premades hurt queue times.

    I'd like to think our community is better than that and would prefer competitive games. Aside from a few neanderthals, I think that this is somewhat true.
     
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  8. Anexa

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    When I rep farmed, I preferred as many as possible just to get easy and fast wins.

    So I basically invited anyone with enchants, may it be a x2 cruel barb rogue with fiery weapons, don't care as long as it prevented me from getting a lvl 10 leveler who refuses to leave despite having like 30 deaths

    As Duro said, it's funnier as a community thing, but the BG itself may not be fun if you absolute wreck the enemy team. I find it really boring and at the end of the day I'm only playing to catch PvP content for a pvp vid.

    So I prefer to solo queue with world buffs now instead, perhaps get a FC or healer with me. Only issue is that my twink friends are still used to me inviting them and getting a full premade. They still need the rep while I don't. It's a dilemma for me what to do

    Help my friends altho its boring?
    or solo queue for awesome content in my recordings? <-- which is one of my major motivations to even play

    BUT I do sometimes wish I had my premade group with me once I fight a full premade... I pretty much always fight tryhards from Mirage Raceway when I solo queue, but I never encounter them with a premade.
     
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  9. Plants

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    Queueing with no more than 3-4 generally makes for more competitive games. the only frustration is when you're running with 3-4 and you q into some goons rolling 10 deep.

    and unless your group is really awful, playing 10 mans vs pugs is the most boring content of all time. your fc autorunning across mid while a few people camp the gy and the rest practice jumps makes for a snoozefest.
     
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  10. Warb

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    Numerous reasons, most thinks belong to twink guilds and want to play with their friends. Yes it's going to be a face roll but usually it's short and sweet. Sometimes there's new members and it's more of a practice run to get them on the same page and figure out their strengths and weakness so you can help them work on the weakness. I don't see an issue with it as long as they don't draw out the match, if they sit an gy camp for an hour that's just douchebaggery at its finest. For me I'm going to group with members online for fun, sometimes it's 1 other member sometimes it's more. It's a game, enjoy it, it's going to happen from time to time.
     
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  11. Better nerf Leeroy

    Better nerf Leeroy Grandfathered

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    If you're gonna que ten you might as well set up a premade with another guild. The more you que with the easier it gets. If you want a harder challenge Que with less people. I enjoy solo quing more than I do a full group of ten, face rolling the whole bg with zero deaths.
     
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    Charax

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    How do you assess that facerolling 10 twinks against a pug? Better to put these new members under some sort of fire.

    If the game is unbalanced, it just promotes lazy play.
     
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  13. Warb

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    If they are running off and not doing what they're suppose to be doing, how do you assess the defense in football when they can't destroy the qb in a practice ?

    I'm giving reasons why it happens, I don't think I've ever had a 10 man vs pug but I can see the why it happens very easily. You also took one example, I listed more.
     
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  14. Chops

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    This is why pro sports leagues are notorious for just signing kids right out of college and starting them on game day without ever taking them through spring training or scrimmage games. Best to just assess them day of.
     
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  15. Counsel

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    5 is average...right guys? guys?
     
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  16. Warb

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    I'd say it's more of a disciple thing in this case, if Bob the twink can't be bothered to be where he should be and is over farming Gy then why would I trust Bob the twink to be where he should be when it actually matters. Bob needs to get over himself regardless of how easy it is or whether he is needed there this particular game and prove he has enough discipline to suck it up for the 5 minutes it's going to take to 3 cap.
     
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  17. Duro

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    Im just glad gays can voice their opinion freely, amarite Plants?
     
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    Charax

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    [​IMG]

    Oh right... you're the resident homophobe.
     
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    2 windwalkers
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  20. Duro

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    Lmaoooo I can't even imagine being that easily offended. Relax, I'm just making fun of plants for being sensitive. Ironic it seems actually.
     

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