What gear for 109?

Discussion in 'Level 100-109' started by RMX67, Jan 29, 2019.

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  1. RMX67

    RMX67 New Member

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    Hi everyone, I have this feral, I wasn't planning to twink it I was just leveling, but then realized how bored I am with BFA so I think it's pointless to reach max level.

    I am 109 already, if I decide to twikn it where should I get the gear?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. sevenohseven

    sevenohseven objectives or gtfo

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    RMX67

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    I'm honestly looking for a easier alternative, don't have the gold to buy those 0.01% BoE or the patience to farm them.
     
  4. Warglave

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    I would go to 110 then, you can get BfA rare drops and be very strong for little effort. No gold required.

    That said... there will be stronger 110 that are running antorus and whatnot. But with your 210 gear you can solo lots of argus stuff and even some mythic legion dungeons if you choose, getting the currency to buy your two legendaries that are nice stat sticks in iPvP. I don't BG at 110 tho, I just know it's the most bang for no buck. You'll feel strong in PvE as well, 109 doesn't really IMO. There's BfA quests for 217 weapons too, much easier than trying to get decent legion relics.
     
  5. 101Warriors

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    If you are looking for instanced PvP, I would definitely unless you are pretty invested or have another specific purpose avoid 110. For instanced PvP to say you are getting in late is an understatement, and while you wouldn't be completely destroyed by other 110s if you had some decent gear you would still notice a fairly big power difference. 110 requires you to quest and get BfA 300s as well. To truly to on par like Warglave was suggesting you need to run Antorus which is a bit late in the 110 game as well. For farming, 110s are king of it. You don't need much gear at all for PvE farming at 110. 110 just takes a bit of time and effort especially so if you don't know the route to go about it. You should not go into world PvP without near BiS gear as well for a 110, not sure about nowadays as well with the ilvl of 120s going up too. As I suggested in a previous thread, if you wish to gear within 109 bracket SoO(older style gear) and other such equip effect gear especially with sockets/enchants can be very powerful and effective. While you not necessarily are going to be on par in all areas with a person decked out in high ilvl 101 BoEs, they are rare and expensive enough you won't really see them when you queue, and if your set up and gear works well you should stand a decent chance against them either way(BoE or lower gear). I would stick with the 109 bracket, it's fairly balanced to a degree, and you don't need max legion gear to be viable. I wouldn't necessarily go for questing gear, as there is usually a better alternative available.Also due to the lack of 101 weapons, unless there is a powerful lower content weapon generally the artifact will be BiS for you.

    Edit: I just wanted to add that if you look towards lower content it's not always the more current ones that provide the best gear. For example Shadowmourne is still really good for strength damage increase even in this bracket.
     
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    So as 109 where I can't raid or hc dungeons, what's the best source of gear?
    Discarding those retarded hard to farm BOE.
     
  7. Warglave

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    Im not going to contradict you, but it's hard for me to suggest to use the same exact gear as the bracket below it.

    I know the OP is already 109, but everything you suggest is available to 90-99. If you want to play a 99-quality twink against level 101+ opponents, knock yourself out, but you might as well start fresh at 99 then. Or move up to 110.

    You can probably solo rather easily all the instances that 101warrior suggested... that's my issue with it, tho. You're basically playing a 90-99 with 10-19 levels of waste on top. Every other bracket "feels" stronger because it's current gear.

    You can get your artifact a few ilvl better at least, so I guess there's that... AND play different specs. That is a plus.
     
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    RMX67

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    But that's ilvl 130 at best.
    As 109 I'm getting ilvl 150+ from pvp boxes.
     
  9. Warglave

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    Exactly.

    He's basing everything on gem slots and enchants. He's not wrong... but that's all it is. Exactly the same gear as 99.

    edit- again, except your artifact. AND multiple spec options, and that IS a major plus. You can equip one legendary, which will be ilvl 265, but you cant choose it at 109. Either you get lucky in legion content and they drop, or you can send tokens from other characters to get a random legendary for your specialization. Or buy crafted. So that's another plus, I guess.
     
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    sorry I don't get it, why pandaria gear and not WoD?
     
  11. 101Warriors

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    Yes, you are basically playing with 99 gear except you do have some potential options for HC citadel, you get a legendary, and some enchants scale a little bit better. But I will also say that 101 boe gear and HC gear compliment it really well, and my 99 has a heck of time soloing old content, doing better damage than my 101 due to difficulty of getting said gear, and overall missing some options that increase the strength of my 101 warrior by a bit. Basically you get a bit more options at 100 and accessibility to what you already get at 99. If I remember right you can get essences at 101 although very slowly unless they changed that.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 30, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 30, 2019 ---
    You generally don't want WoD because you can't enchant the gear, most enchants stop at 136 ilvl which is roughly the lvl that SoO is at. If the enchant and the gems don't work in tandem, heck its just better to go with legion gear.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 30, 2019 ---
    As I was saying before, its also not always SoO gear, don't see much beating the stone of the elements or my Gurths. It really depends on the stats and the effect. Oh, you also get access to the last talent that could complete/help your class.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 30, 2019 ---
    I will also add that it is much more difficult to go through HC citadel now below 110, as you are much much weaker than you were in legion in terms of PvE. I rushed and was able to get the gear(although non-socketed) I needed before legion was over but now your best best would be getting a 120 to run you through it or having a second account with a 110+ to get you through.
     
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    stay at 109 .. it is a much better bracket if you like to kill enemy easily .. 110-119 is a hot bracket .. there are more twinks players in 110-119 than there are in 100-109 at the moment, so you might meet more of them and you will have less fun going around killing everyone easily, also considering that there are more lvling players with bad gears in 100-109 than there are in 110-119
     
  13. Warglave

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    Been fiddling around with WoD heroic dungeons now, mentioned in another thread that the scaling is wonky. At 109 most classes should be able to solo these and get some 136-enchant capable items that are currently scaling to 152-154 on the PTR. Cant guarantee anything cuz the rares are higher than they should be, most likely... but some nice stuff available for potentially zero gold invested. Exactly the same at 101 as 109, I believe, just easier to get on your own at higher levels.

    Most recent quality drop today, plate gloves looking better than SoO gemmers: https://imgur.com/knLetjE

    It's all RNG, and heroics so they cant be spammed... so roll your dice if you wanna. Cant really hurt. ;)

    edit- OK, my mistake... I guess you have to BE 109 to just cruise through WoD heroics. Dinging 109 flipped the switch.
     
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    I will support that if it truly does scale to 152 and 154 as long as its enchanted and has one socket it is equal or beats out every SoO piece in primary stats while obviously having more secondary. As for stamina SoO can still beat some pieces(not all), some are roughly equal, and some are beaten out by WoD. but if SoO gear does beat it, its by a fairly low amount but this anyway looks like a pretty good find as long as it carries over I would recommend getting the gear if you can before the patch, hopefully it carries over or doesn't get bug-fixed or something. As for the difficulty, yeah 101 I can only make it past the first boss in some dungeons. The health and mechanics for most of them kinda prevent you from getting further especially without a healing tank spec(tanks and potentially healers are the only one able to survive the damage dealt), but mainly its the low damage that tanks do that prevents you from getting further, but I am sure there is a set up like blood death knights or a dps healer or something that could do it at 101.
     
  15. Warglave

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    Yeah, the heroic blues should probably be lower, like 147? I don't know. The 99 blues were 142, I think, and the 99 epics 149. I don't know what normal 100 blues are.... don't care ;). I'd love for this to stay tho. We'll see.

    I'd love more for the heroic epics to be wrong instead and go to like 159... but it makes sense to cap them. Perhaps if legion ever goes to the boosted ilevel system they're doing for the lower brackets these epics will go even higher.

    edit- oh yeah, and I was getting beat pretty hard even at 108. The legacy damage boost works 109, I guess. Got easy.
     
  16. 101Warriors

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    Hey the higher the better especially since it would basically be grandfathered enchants, as long as they don't disable the extras like enchants or sockets I see it surpassing a bit of gear, especially since you do get extra secondary customization potential with WoD. Doubt it would get high enough to truly beat the 101 BoEs, but hey ya never know and that would become very interesting.
     
  17. Warglave

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    I've still not gotten any epic/socket/tertiary, to my recollection. And only got epic/tertiary twice at 99 and on my 110s.

    Think I might have seen epic/socket from heroics tho… it's all starting to blur. Lol. Tertiary/socket like in the pic is more desirable to me anyway, even tho I find leech underwhelming and speed diminishes itself SO fast... but 152 to 154 is meh.

    edit- yeah, I have an epic/socket heroics cloak on my DK.
     
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    speed interestingly at small amounts seemed to give some decent % at least at higher levels, leech however is so rare that i'm not sure how well it scales. Even if you could get like 10% it would be nice though. Some speed or leech is probably better than none especially as an extra stat I agree with you that I would probably take those two and a socket over +2 ilvls. If it scales to higher ilvls however, then we will see heh.
     
  19. Warglave

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    I got around 10-11% leech on my hunter, but that's mostly (if not totally) from Legion epic BoE. That's at 109. In legion it was like 35% at 101. I haven't BG on him since getting to 109 yet tho, just running heroics for the loots right now.

    edit- the speed drops im getting are giving like 3%, then equipping the next will only give 2%. Only got a few so far.
     
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    oof didn't think speed dropped off so quickly. Yeah best to quickly run the dungeons and enchant them just in case, then test individual pieces and full sets later. Didn't think I would ever run and run to those dungeons again after they removed ilvl upgrading and therefore the use for valor. But well, here comes something that makes it worthwhile lol.
     

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