Cigarette
Grandfathered
Check my L10 lock armory in sig- I can provide a screenshot when I'm home from work. Level ten spawns ilvl 15 base gear, my Tforged weapon is ilvl 25- with DOUBLE the stats of the unforged weapons
Check my L10 lock armory in sig- I can provide a screenshot when I'm home from work. Level ten spawns ilvl 15 base gear, my Tforged weapon is ilvl 25- with DOUBLE the stats of the unforged weapons
Pixel
Legend
Your post almost seems like a bitter concession.
Lyrarath might not be correct, but his theory is more logical than anything I've seen you put forward.
At the present time I think double warforged is a more suitable term. Just an opinion.
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Slice
Legend
This is the response I received:
Hello there Finn!! Lady Nysgharyn here!! (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿) I do hope you are well? With the Legion Chest they are working as intended. The gear you are getting is correct. There may be changes in the future, look to Blue Posts for updates. Take care Finn. Enjoy the Invasion. Nysgharyn... \m/-(Ò_ó)-\m/
Hello there Finn!! Lady Nysgharyn here!! (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿) I do hope you are well? With the Legion Chest they are working as intended. The gear you are getting is correct. There may be changes in the future, look to Blue Posts for updates. Take care Finn. Enjoy the Invasion. Nysgharyn... \m/-(Ò_ó)-\m/
Snack
Salty
That is just weird tbh, the prepatch invasions and events are something they've used for all their expacs, I don't see why they would change it.I will be making a Thread on the Official Forums probably tomorrow night since I'm off Monday about Blizz continuing the Invasions, even in a part-time manner (like one Weekend/mo). Lets be real here, do you honestly think the Legion would build f'ing Spaceships and FLY ALL THE WAY HERE to Azeroth and just give up after 3 weeks? I'm going to suggest Blizz take away all the Invasion bonus items like the Illardi Camp Vendors and the Doomsayers + the FoS's, just leaving the Invasions themselves and the Gear (only) from Chests.
I'm sure it'll fall on deaf ears as it often does with Blizz but hopefully I can make enough sense to keep this Twink Gear train rolling
Bluetone
Grandfathered
Thats a "its late and I cant be stuffed" answer if ever I saw one
Silentfire
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Syrayeda
Legend
you really shouldnt be comparing thunderforged and warforged from mop and wod with warforged and titanforged from legion. they might partially have the same name and similar properties, but they are ultimately different things. another example of same name but different things is the legion honor points which have nothing to do with old honor point currency.
focusing on legion warforged and titanforged, warforged can be +5 or +10 ilvl, and titanforged can be +15, +20, +25, +30, etc. ilvl. from this set of data, you can classify titanforged in 2 ways:
(1) they have +15 ilvl or higher,
(2) they proc 3 ilvl upgrades.
now invasion warforged are a bit different from legion warforged. at max level, they can be +10 or +20 ilvl. at lower levels they can be (as of now, before any fixes) +0 or +10 ilvl.
so at max level, they satisfy classification (1) for titanforged but not classification (2).
at lower levels, they do not satisfy either classification (1) or (2) for titanforged.
now its completely up to you how you want to interpret these classifications, as i came up with them myself and has nothing to do with what blizzard has in mind. but it seems to me that classification (2) might be used for invasion warforged gear, since there are no 3 procs of ilvl upgrades, there are no titanforged
focusing on legion warforged and titanforged, warforged can be +5 or +10 ilvl, and titanforged can be +15, +20, +25, +30, etc. ilvl. from this set of data, you can classify titanforged in 2 ways:
(1) they have +15 ilvl or higher,
(2) they proc 3 ilvl upgrades.
now invasion warforged are a bit different from legion warforged. at max level, they can be +10 or +20 ilvl. at lower levels they can be (as of now, before any fixes) +0 or +10 ilvl.
so at max level, they satisfy classification (1) for titanforged but not classification (2).
at lower levels, they do not satisfy either classification (1) or (2) for titanforged.
now its completely up to you how you want to interpret these classifications, as i came up with them myself and has nothing to do with what blizzard has in mind. but it seems to me that classification (2) might be used for invasion warforged gear, since there are no 3 procs of ilvl upgrades, there are no titanforged
Lyrarath
Grandfathered
@Pixel I wasn't necessarily wrong. Though I did word it in a way that would suggest that Warforged was gone and it was only Titanforged left, which is not what I meant to do. It was like 3 or so AM for me so I wasn't 100% careful >.>
Proof from post Pixel posted that I was correct on how gear rolls higher:
The last little bit on there also proves that it is not Titanforged because it has to roll +5 to at least +15, but the Invasion gear only rolls by +10's.
@Allybeboba I have called the gear either WF'd, or +0 +10 +20 depending on if it was 100 or a twink to people I have PM'd ingame.
@Syrayeda I intended to inform people that it is different than the old versions and gave a little bit of history to let people know how they changed over time. If Blizzard did it the way they did in MoP, we would not be having this "warforged and yes titanforged" debate at all as the name Warforge would have died after Warlords hit, and we would be onto our sixth "-forged" name rather than third.
Proof from post Pixel posted that I was correct on how gear rolls higher:
The last little bit on there also proves that it is not Titanforged because it has to roll +5 to at least +15, but the Invasion gear only rolls by +10's.
@Allybeboba I have called the gear either WF'd, or +0 +10 +20 depending on if it was 100 or a twink to people I have PM'd ingame.
@Syrayeda I intended to inform people that it is different than the old versions and gave a little bit of history to let people know how they changed over time. If Blizzard did it the way they did in MoP, we would not be having this "warforged and yes titanforged" debate at all as the name Warforge would have died after Warlords hit, and we would be onto our sixth "-forged" name rather than third.
Snack
Salty
Nice info, titanforged is a wrong label. The invasion items seem to be under a unique system, where it's either 10+ or 20+? Like max 2 rolls and it's +10 each roll@Pixel I wasn't necessarily wrong. Though I did word it in a way that would suggest that Warforged was gone and it was only Titanforged left, which is not what I meant to do. It was like 3 or so AM for me so I wasn't 100% careful >.>
Proof from post Pixel posted that I was correct on how gear rolls higher:
The last little bit on there also proves that it is not Titanforged because it has to roll +5 to at least +15, but the Invasion gear only rolls by +10's.
@Allybeboba I have called the gear either WF'd, or +0 +10 +20 depending on if it was 100 or a twink to people I have PM'd ingame.
@Syrayeda I intended to inform people that it is different than the old versions and gave a little bit of history to let people know how they changed over time. If Blizzard did it the way they did in MoP, we would not be having this "warforged and yes titanforged" debate at all as the name Warforge would have died after Warlords hit, and we would be onto our sixth "-forged" name rather than third.
Razien
Legend
@Pixel I wasn't necessarily wrong. Though I did word it in a way that would suggest that Warforged was gone and it was only Titanforged left, which is not what I meant to do. It was like 3 or so AM for me so I wasn't 100% careful >.>
Proof from post Pixel posted that I was correct on how gear rolls higher:
The last little bit on there also proves that it is not Titanforged because it has to roll +5 to at least +15, but the Invasion gear only rolls by +10's.
@Allybeboba I have called the gear either WF'd, or +0 +10 +20 depending on if it was 100 or a twink to people I have PM'd ingame.
@Syrayeda I intended to inform people that it is different than the old versions and gave a little bit of history to let people know how they changed over time. If Blizzard did it the way they did in MoP, we would not be having this "warforged and yes titanforged" debate at all as the name Warforge would have died after Warlords hit, and we would be onto our sixth "-forged" name rather than third.
Still doesn't explain why the current non-upgraded-stats Warforged versions of the Event gear are labeled as Warforged, does it?
Lyrarath
Grandfathered
Razien
Legend
They will never change that "for us", Blizzard has openly stated they do *not* support twinks in any form or way, so changing something that would only benefit twinks is something i doubt they will ever do.
That said, of course i hope they will.
Snack
Salty
It's not just for twinks. Casual levelers are experiencing this as well
Razien
Legend
But they'll outlevel and replace the gear after this even VERY swiftly and the only people who will keep this gear for life are Twinks, so why bother changing the gear at all if it only affects twinks ^^?
artonkn
aaaaa
Please post in this thread, a GM said it would help, want to see the most support possible http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613142751
Snack
Salty
Well it's a bug in their coding, I would guess they would want to fix it
OP
OP
Lines
Guest
Do you have a link and or an article to support this claim?
I find it false seeing as when they added the ability to pay to turn your XPOff, I'm pretty sure that move was directed towards twinks, not to mention they dressed up the NPC's in BIS vanilla twink gear lol.
So, I think they support twinks to an extent but the way we'd like them to.
Snack
Salty
They made it possible to turn xpoff and introduced exp in BG's to seperate twinks from levelers, to save the levelers from the unrelenting wrath of overpowered twinks back in Wrath.
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