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Yapah said:
Hahahahaha of course, I get asked about kurds because GENOCIDE amrite? Kurds in turkey are turkish citizens, they have the same rights as turks. I know many kurds, theyre good people and most of the time u cant even tell unless they tell u. U realize that most kurds in turkey dont want kurdistan. They enjoy their quality of life in turkey (relative to the middle east its amazing). Turkey isnt fighting kurds, but the kurdish terrorists who blow up bombs in public areas (subways, bus stations, public squares) to push their own political means of a kurdish state (never gonna happen).

Also you’re an idiot if you believe in direct democracy, holy fuck man. The reason we have representative democracy is because the majority of the population is dumb as fuck, it creates some level of competence at the top of the govt. Also you cant believe in socialism and democracy, those two dont mix however much u want to in whatever fantasyland ur in.
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Lmao.

So instead of educating people you would rather genocidal tyrants.
 
i love conq's logic of a systematic oppression of the working class while claiming to be within months of a 6 figure contract after coming from a poor background, and the man isnt even 30.

damn this society we live in
 
Actually it doesnt. In a hierarachy you will ascend to 1 position above your competence level.
 
Yapah said:
This thread is proof that people cant be educated

the random common idiot always gravitates towards free stuff
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Implying this conversation has been a platform designed for education and proves anything is beyond reason. People can and have be successfully re-educated. At the end of the day when it comes to political science, the facts speak for themselves, sorting through the real and the fake ones is where the difficult lies.

Living in comfort should be a human right. It's easy to tell who does and doesn't respect life.
 
Iild said:
i love conq's logic of a systematic oppression of the working class while claiming to be within months of a 6 figure contract after coming from a poor background, and the man isnt even 30.

damn this society we live in
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Most people's success is at least 50% luck. I'm very lucky and good at what I do, and I don't intend to forget where I came from.

It's not like this is my class analysis lol, I don't own it. This is stuff is the most influential philosophy in modern history.
 
Conq said:
Most people's success is at least 50% luck. I'm very lucky and good at what I do, and I don't intend to forget where I came from.

It's not like this is my class analysis lol, I don't own it. This is stuff is the most influential philosophy in modern history.
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Doesn’t really disprove what he’s saying
 
Yapah said:
Would a direct democracy create more competence?
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You've spent this whole thread arguing that government is incompetent/only serves to enslave folks.

But now theres competence at the top? And if government's only purpose is to enslave folks, wouldn't you want them to be incompetent.

But also, I gotta look at American president's and tell you that representative democracy is pretty spotty on the whole "putting competent people in power" thing.

It was just a really weird statement for you to make given the rest of your posts
 
Since everyone is already here.
Is anyone else pissed about americans not knowing what the word liberal means?
 
Quackbesteu said:
Doesn’t really disprove what he’s saying
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He asked a question. What is his point? The median income in the DC area is 90k+. Are you saying the "upper middle class", people can't have political education or contribute to social causes? That is far from true.
 
Conq said:
Living in comfort should be a human right. It's easy to tell who does and doesn't respect life.
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No its not. If you read the constitution of your country, rights are not given by a government, that also means they can take it away from you. The govt’s job is only protect our natural god given rights. The right to free speech, bear arms, protection from unreasonable searches and seizures, ect.

You idiots who says healthcare is a right, good quality of life is a right, yall dont know what a right even is. These things ARE NOT natural rights
 
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Goesid said:
Since everyone is already here.
Is anyone else pissed about americans not knowing what the word liberal means?
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A recent term that has caught on coined by the anthropologist Adrienne Pine is "Neoliberal Fascism", that's a fun one to explain.
 
Conq said:
Most people's success is at least 50% luck. I'm very lucky and good at what I do, and I don't intend to forget where I came from.
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i disagree with everything you just said.

firstly success is subjective, everyones basis of being successful is different

also if luck is 50% whats the other 50%? im assuming hard work, everyone i know that put in hard work during education and further education is earning way above my nation's average salary, i'd deem that a success and im pretty sure if i bothered to ask everyone ive met if they put their current position down to luck there'd only be 1 or 2 who agree.

not bad for a group of working class kids if you ask me.

where's the system holding them back? is it because none of them are billionaires yet or what
 
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You've spent this whole thread arguing that government is incompetent/only serves to enslave folks.

But now theres competence at the top? And if government's only purpose is to enslave folks, wouldn't you want them to be incompetent.

But also, I gotta look at American president's and tell you that representative democracy is pretty spotty on the whole "putting competent people in power" thing.

It was just a really weird statement for you to make given the rest of your posts
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I havent been arguing to abolish govt. I was saying the govt is very bad at doing stuff, let them do the minimum theyre required to do and dont over-regulate or collude with business

What does that have to do with direct/representative democracy? YES I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A GOVERNMENT lmao
 
Yapah said:
No its not. If you read the constitution of your country, rights are not given by a government, that also means they can take it away from you. The govt’s job is only protect our natural god given rights. The right to free speech, bear arms, protection from unreasonable searches and seizures, ect.

You idiots who says healthcare is a right, good quality of life is a right, yall dont know what a right even is. These things ARE NOT natural rights
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I'm familiar with this logic and philosophy and it's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. The government takes people's rights away all the time bud. It's self evident bullshit.
 
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