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The Bias of this Website ft. Other Stuff Staff Do #freemvq

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  1. Iild

    Iild Member

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    Alright I haven't spoke about this in a while but it's getting beyond annoying, if you can't see the bias on this website you're not paying close enough attention.

    The Mvq 'situation'
    Mvq got banned for saying 'kys' to a staff member, which he disputed for pretty much the full 2 week duration, after being told he was going to get unbanned the same day he got banned after bringing it up to @Arkte

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    Mvq came back with 0 respect to staff after that and got himself banned for another 2 weeks (considered his first ban as technically the original one was deemed unjust and his warnings etc were revoked)

    The reason given was: Spamming
    He brought this up to Arkte again asking for evidence of spamming, no evidence was brought to attention, Arkte had no idea what Mvq meant when he said it was for spamming, Arkte thought it was for another reason and would always go on a tangent about toxicity etc

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    Whoever banned Mvq followed 0 protocol Arkte put in place, and he seemed to not care at all.


    2 weeks passed and Mvq was back again, he posted one thing - mvq1.png

    Yes you can argue this is a bannable offence, perma ban? nah don't think so, i've seen worse on here which i'll list below later.

    The reason given for his ban? 'I despise you'
    Experiences i've encountered

    As you know i'm possibly the most active person on this whole website so i've encountered my fair share of anomalies and inconsistencies within

    I've had multitudes of posts deleted without reason or notification, even threads deleted due to it.

    I've noticed certain moderators don't give me a reason on purpose because they know i'll link the forum rules and tell them to point out which rule I broke, which they wouldnt be able to.

    The reason i'm making this thread is because of the most recent incident i've encountered which involved Conq and one of his 28467834 Overwatch Threads that nobody replies to.

    I thought i'd do him a favor and humor his application process for his future esports project that consumed much of his time to the point where it killed Twink Cup but thats for another thread.

    I politely explained I wanted to be part of publicity and mentioned that I had never had a tournament cancelled on me due to lack of signups.

    Deleted. Reason? 'Please see sub-forums rules'

    I repost it in a more serious manner.

    Deleted. Reason? 'First Warning'

    I repost it again and get a 'possibly' different mod delete it. Reason? Please only post constructive content on this sub foorum.

    I now know this is Conq due to the spelling mistake so I do this:

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    I point out the inconsistency in the deletion of replies, not one single thing I quoted had any relevancy or constructive criticism/praise or advancement of the topic.

    This isnt a one off thing either.

    Mvq was perma banned for being insulting to staff and generally toxic.

    Lets take Devm as an example of the bias of this website.

    Mvq - banned for saying kys

    Devm - not banned, posts not deleted, rarely moderated.



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    Why is 1 rule for one and another for others?



    Staff needs an overhaul unless they can start being consistent, because to me it looks like a favoritism thing.

    Also staff needs to start being consistent in the sense that reasons need to be given for deleting threads/posts every single time.

    And Arkte seems to have 0 involvement in any moderating going on in this site, absolutely had no idea why or when people were getting banned as seen above in the Mvq section.


    There's 100s more examples of inconsistencies i'm not just picking on Devm but he was an easy and simple example to get a hold of screencaps of.

    Nothing personal I just dont like you Devm.
     
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  2. Fael

    Fael Believer

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    Need TL;DR
     
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    Iild

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    TL;DR c u on the cata server noob ur gonna get owned
     
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  4. Fael

    Fael Believer

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    Yeet
     
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  5. MYT

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    So either there is a conspiracy against you or you're delusional?
    I'll take option B.
    @freemvq
     
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    Iild

    Iild Member

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    You know when you read something and it doesn't function in your brain, why do you still continue to post a response?

    I'm not claiming a conspiracy, i'm 100% sure mods get lazy and only moderate certain people and ignore any other reports, i've personally reported some comments made by others, no action in weeks.

    I post something, it gets moderated within seconds. Not enough time to be reported.

    There needs to be consistencies in moderating users and upholding of rules or there's no point of having rules.

    But carry on following every post I do and typing your nonsensical uninformed responses, it's hilarious.
     
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    First off, thank you for showing MVQ's reactionaire to my post, never got to see it. Secondly I agree thaf Mvq is just beding targeted at the moment. I have said far worse stuff in a thread, had something to do with african Americans, but havent been banned and havent had a warming.
     
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  8. MYT

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    Posting on this forum isn't "following you". You're delusional again.
    You're a classic narcissist who thinks the world revolves around them. Of course the deck is stacked against you. The idea that everyone else deals with adversity too hasn't seeped through your skull yet. Maybe when you realize that you'll gain a better understanding of this game as well. Good luck!
     
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  9. Sketchbag

    Sketchbag OVOXO Moderator

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    So awkward you took the time to create this...

    ...Liked 'er for ya tho! :D
     
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  10. Arkte

    Arkte Banned

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    The actions that have been taken on the site lately have little or nothing to do with biases. There may be some inconsistencies due to the fact that some of our staff aren't following proper protocol, and I'm dealing with that. But bias is not really a factor here.

    I knew exactly what he meant, I saw the content myself. He was indeed spamming. He created multiple threads complaining about Selaya, one after the other. Providing evidence was not necessary, he knew what he did. There was no confusion on my end, nor do I recall any such "tangent" about toxicity.

    Things are not always as they "seem", I'm afraid. I did care, at first anyway. I tried to take care of him, but he kept digging his hole deeper. I was the one person that COULD have gotten him out of all that mess, despite how much he was in the wrong, and yet he continued to disrespect me and the rest of my staff. I'm sorry, but if you expect a staff member to help you after constant harassment and disrespect, you're sadly mistaken.

    Not at all. There's not even the slightest possibility of that being true. It's not relevant to the main topic, but I thought I'd point that out.

    Reasons should have been provided, no matter how evident they were. Notification should have also been given. Not disputing that. However, I assure you your posts/threads HAD plenty of reason to be moderated. You know that just as well as myself and all the rest of us.

    No, that's not why at all. It's usually just because they are too lazy or don't feel the need to. Because again, I assure you they COULD provide a reason if they actually took the time to do so. If you feel like you've had any content that has been moderated without a good reason, please inform me and I'll provide you with one myself. Maybe that will help bring some closure.

    But you DID reply to it... o_O

    Yeah, you really did him a favor there. Great job. And that is not at all what killed the TC. The lack of interest in competitive playing in the bracket (or lack of interest in the bracket altogether, for that matter) is what killed it. If it weren't for Conq and the others who have gone through so much to put this all together, there wouldn't BE a TC in the first place. You can't expect one person to do everything, and then blame that person for things not working out when it was almost entirely due to external circumstances completely out of his (or anyone's) control.

    Good for you. My question is, how many tournaments (even remotely close to the same degree as the TC) have you successfully managed by yourself? My guess would be none, but I suppose I could be wrong.

    So now, your content has been moderated, and in this particular case, you WERE given a reason and notified of said moderation. And you didn't provide any valid dispute to those reasons. But never mind that, right? Lets change the subject by pointing out other people's content that you felt should have been moderated but wasn't.

    Here's another false statement, they just keep adding up. Quite the contrary, I'm afraid. Devm actually has far more moderated content on the site than just about anyone else, and even the poor examples you provided here in this thread were moderated. That thread about Selaya? That was locked and removed from public view several minutes after being posted, and he was banned for it. You keep talking about how the staff is bias, yet you specifically target Devm because, by your own admission, you don't like him. That has "bias" written all over it. But I suppose you could do a much better job at moderating a forum, right?

    They're not. The same rules apply to everyone, even staff. It's very simple, there's not much else to be said about it.

    Well, that's what I have Moderators for. I shouldn't HAVE to have much involvement with it. But, again, contrary to what you believe, I certainly do. I've done plenty of moderating on the site, even lately where I have very little time to tend to anything due to work and other real-life responsibilities.

    If there are only "certain people" who are being moderated, then perhaps it is because there are only "certain people" on the site who can't be decent and follow simple rules. Not because the staff is being "biased" or ignoring others. And I've seen a few of your reports, even acted on one of them myself. But 99% of your reports are bogus and a waste of our time. you apparently feel that just because you personally don't like a response, it should be deleted. Unfortunately for you, however, it doesn't work that way.

    Obviously that shows a clear consistency in your content. If your posts are constantly being moderated, perhaps it's time to change the way you post? I highly doubt you'll even so much as consider that, though.
     
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    i think there is no bais and that mvq's ban was justified for saying the worst 3 letter combo = "kys"....People have actually killed them selves from this and its not a joking matter....say anything else other then that cause thats online bullying which has killed many people.
     
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    It was funny how lild brought up some good reasons about the lack of interest in the TC this year, then shortly after (in the same thread) he changed his tune and everything was Conq's fault.

    Given lild's widespread influence, I'm afraid Conq might end up with no friends left. /s
     
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  13. Light

    Light pennywise

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    Uh tl;dr
    Like you tryna get MVq unbanned or saying shit about mods

    Fr summarize
     
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  14. Allybeboba

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    Mistake #1
    This could have been taken care of in a PM.

    Mistake #2
    Smearing someone else publicly. The OP should have at least gotten rid of Devm's name.

    Mistake #3
    Smearing only one person. It makes it look as if the OP has something against Devm.

    MVP brought this on himself. Now, whether he deserves a permaban I do not know.
    What we all must remember being a member on this forum is a privilege, not a right. The powers that be can revoke our posting privileges for any and/or no reason at all and at any time. There is nothing we could do about it.

    /cheers
     
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  15. Roboartist

    Roboartist Reclaimer Moderator

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    Tbh he never bothered me. And never would if he was targeting me.

    But to be fair, he could really work on his sarcasm. I don't think he has a very good positive/negative comment ratio. Most of his stuff just seems aggressive without reason. Again that wouldn't bother me too much since it's the interwebs.

    Point is, he needs to work on the impression that he isn't completely a dick on this site for those who don't know him personally. Just my 2c
     
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  16. Onlydreams

    Onlydreams #1 internet bully

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    Wow it's almost like it's a privately owned website and no mods/staff/owners owes you anything and they can just ban you if they don't like you.
    Welcome to the real world where you can't just be an asshole with no consequences even if you were "technically following the rules". I'm still mindblown at the amount of purely negative posters that are allowed to stay on the site.
     
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  17. Mocha

    Mocha Grandfathered

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    Interesting read
    ^^^

    I think people who do not adhere to the operational code of conduct of a given community should not be given a free platform to soil wherever they'd like. Not banning someone because they're "important" is biased. Banning someone for habitually spewing disrespect towards others and staff members while not adhering to the very social code is just.
     
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  18. Dorigon

    Dorigon Alpha and Omega

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    This community has no place for advocating killing oneself. Think of Sneaky, Leusha, and Flamer - all good twinks who could have possibly been around today if TI had a more welcoming environment.
     
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    You need to stop making threads man, maybe chill out and smoke some weed - you seem angry.
     
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