The actual state of twinking at 19...

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  1. addohm

    addohm New Member

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    I've become quite disturbed as of late. I don't really know how long it's been like this as I stopped playing seriously after WotLK, and completely during MoP. I've built up 3 twinks. A balance druid, resto shamen, and an arcane mage. Each time while leveling up, once I could queue for BG's, I remembered how wonderfully fun low level PvP was to me. Once I got to 19 though, and had to turn off xp, away went the queues. I can sit in the queue for 8 hours. Sometimes I get a nice string of arena queues to pop, but not often. I mostly want to play BG's anyway. So my question is, what is the actual state of twinking at 19? Is it dead? Why is it this way? Will it come back? Has the community made themselves heard by blizzard?
     
  2. Bung

    Bung Gnometastic

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    imo its as dead as it is cus peeps wanna get insta pop on lvl 20 instead of long queues vs xpoff only
     
  3. hom

    hom Veteran

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    Battlegrounds are split between xp on characters (levellers) and xp off characters (twinks).

    If you have locked xp you will struggle to find queues in battlegrounds as there aren't enough level 19's with their xp disabled also queuing for battlegrounds.

    As @Bung said, most people have shifted to level 20 and started veteran/f2p accounts. More info on them can be found on this site.

    Blizzard answered to the cries of levellers that twinks were ruining battlegrounds. With the addition of certain heirloom trinkets battlegrounds are actually a viable way to level. Those that levelled in battlegrounds couldn't stand the twinks ruining their experience and so Blizzard made this change.

    You 19's will collect dust, duel, wargame if you can organise or level to 20. It's your choice.
     
  4. MartinD738

    MartinD738 Member

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    Blizzard have segregated XP off and XP on players for BGs. So the only realistic way to currently enjoy twinking is to gear/enchant/stock consumables on a level 20 before cancelling your sub and then playing XP on at 20 BGs. But if you ever resub ensure you turn XP off as otherwise your char will level (experience banks on f2p accounts).
     
  5. Quackbesteu

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    EU or NA? Situation is different but the outcome is the same.
     
  6. shanker

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    ironicly, a history repeat from WOTLK, you had twinks starting threads on WOW forums to separate twinks, agenda andy's for what ever the reason, holier than thou false prophets. levelers always cried about twinks since day one of WOW, even in Legion expac with fixed templates.

    some may say the split would have happened anyway, but the largest threads on separation was twink supported. the flak spilled to xpoff when after 8.1.5 killed every twink bracket. 20-29 xp on, and 110 legion cap xp on, are not actually twink brackets

    in CATA when the F2P program started, there were F2P19s because they could turn off XP, but 19s when it was bigger, enchants were not squished. there was opposition to remove them, blizz listened. today if F2Ps could turn off XP, they would more than likely aid in games popping.

    in WOTLK with a 8-10 mil player base, the separation idea was grand, but many brackets got no games and went dead. even after migrations. in 2019 WOW does not have the player base which now may be as low as 1.5 - 2 mil (may be a generous estimation) for twinks to aid or promote separation
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:37 AM, Original Post Date: Jul 17, 2019 at 4:36 AM ---
    https://xpoff.com/threads/why-how-did-8-2-kill-19s.89228/#post-1181582
     
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    hom Veteran

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    Exactly, apparently it was a mistake that xpoff toons were even allowed into bgs at the start of bfa. This was overlooked until effectively 'corrected' in 8.1.5
     
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  8. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad

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    Just a small correction. Vet toons (20s who used to have game time but no longer do) dont currently bank xp. Only pure F2P does. So if you go the vet route, you dont have to worry about banking xp. Yet.

    (Im fairly sure this an oversight and will eventually be corrected)
     
  9. MartinD738

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    Do you think then, that 19 twinks may be better suited to simply level to 20 and go vet?
     
  10. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad

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    I am firmly on Team Dont Level Twinks. They may become relevant again in the future.
     
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  11. shanker

    shanker Member

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    i would not blow any twink now, just reroll a 20 if you want to see that bracket. you can add trial account to your main account, to try F2P. doing this gives access to all your mounts, BOAs to trial players, along with shared achievements, and your F2Ps will add to your main accounts PVP achieves and honor ratings to get mounts, toys, titles.

    level squish is coming in the future, no one knows how blizz will implement, 50% cut on levels? will they round up or down X9 twinks? will they make a 19 into a 9 will half load XP bar? or 19 and 20 squished together?
     
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  12. Schalood

    Schalood Psychedelic Gladiator

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    lmao
     

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