Talents Preview Discussion [w/ Calaculator Link]

[Ivo]

Keep in mind that dmg likely stays the same. Utility spells are cool and all but when your burst does 1000 dmg total, it's hard to do anything in bg.

 

[Chops]

Keep in mind that dmg likely stays the same.

If someone wants to do me a solid and grab a full panda ilvl 28 set and a blue quest weapon on any of the classes I've currently leveled, I can do the same pretty easy on the alpha and we can compare tooltips and get an idea of what (if anything) has changed.

God, give me character copy already holy shit.

 

[Goesid]

If someone wants to do me a solid and grab a full panda ilvl 28 set and a blue quest weapon on any of the classes I've currently leveled, I can do the same pretty easy on the alpha and we can compare tooltips and get an idea of what (if anything) has changed.

God, give me character copy already holy shit.

I volunteer!
*2 seconds pass*
fuck, why did I volunteer.

 

[Kethcup]

Fire sucks ass, big dissappointment. Literally need to spend every talent from spec tree to get all the base skills and thus losing any choice

I mean welcome to death knights, 90% of the class tree is grabbing frost utility, and 90% of the spec tree is getting baseline abilities.

 

[Nutsmite]

I mean welcome to death knights, 90% of the class tree is grabbing frost utility, and 90% of the spec tree is getting baseline abilities.

I can see some potential with frost but thats gonna require proper build path with proper gearing and gems and loads of mental gymnastics. But I swear if it stays like that i'm gonna make it work. Also you could do full stamina blood dk build for shits and giggles

 

[Bop]

I mean welcome to death knights, 90% of the class tree is grabbing frost utility, and 90% of the spec tree is getting baseline abilities.

:') I'm still in denial that Unholy is losing Apocalypse.

 

[Ivo]

My superior intellect came up with this sp build https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/shadow/BGAAQEgCAEUBQBBE
Faster dotting > more mind blast procs > more dmg reduction for fotm shamans
Also 2 charges of mind blast and ~6s cd means you can cast it every 3s

Unbuffed out of bg as disc.

 

[Kethcup]

My superior intellect came up with this sp build https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/shadow/BGAAQEgCAEUBQBBE
Faster dotting > more mind blast procs > more dmg reduction for fotm shamans
Also 2 charges of mind blast and ~6s cd means you can cast it every 3s
View attachment 21412
Unbuffed out of bg as disc.

8...41... oh no.

 

[Ivo]

8...41... oh no.

Should be even more in bg, fully buffed. + that you cast it every 3s

 

[Goesid]

Ditch 1 point in dmg prevention and take PI. Just got it back, need to put Purge to use.

 

[Nutsmite]

My superior intellect came up with this sp build https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/shadow/BGAAQEgCAEUBQBBE
Faster dotting > more mind blast procs > more dmg reduction for fotm shamans
Also 2 charges of mind blast and ~6s cd means you can cast it every 3s
View attachment 21412
Unbuffed out of bg as disc.

I did same thing with core tree but changed the fear to mind bomb and swapped misery to unfurling darkness since blast resets on vampiric touch not sw. Also more instant procs with instant vt makes for funny playstyle

 

[Ivo]

I did same thing with core tree but changed the fear to mind bomb and swapped misery to unfurling darkness since blast resets on vampiric touch not sw. Also more instant procs with instant vt makes for funny playstyle

Nice, I was thinking that if I spend 1 gcd instead of 2 to apply all my dots, I will have more VTs running faster and will have more free gcds to cast mind blasts or heal.

 

[Nutsmite]

Nice, I was thinking that if I spend 1 gcd instead of 2 to apply all my dots, I will have more VTs running faster and will have more free gcds to cast mind blasts or heal.

That would make for a good pressure build for sure. But with one shot mind blasts having instant vt is nice. Also correct me if im wrong but I think that the initial damage can proc mind blast reset aswell

 

[Ivo]

That would make for a good pressure build for sure. But with one shot mind blasts having instant vt is nice. Also correct me if im wrong but I think that the initial damage can proc mind blast reset aswell

I'm not sure about this, I'll have to log my 60 priest to try it

 

[Chops]

My superior intellect came up with this sp build https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/shadow/BGAAQEgCAEUBQBBE
Faster dotting > more mind blast procs > more dmg reduction for fotm shamans
Also 2 charges of mind blast and ~6s cd means you can cast it every 3s
View attachment 21412
Unbuffed out of bg as disc.

not sure if you caught it but mind bomb does not replace psychic scream. So your build could get a bit of extra control if you wanted.

 

[glancealot]

i hope holy tree isn't stupid like ret tree.

notice how you can only get a single tier 4 ret talent at 20?

/facepalm

 

[Nutsmite]

yeah let's hope holy get some flat 20%ms along with 3 stacks of hand of freedom and passive that makes you have 5% chance on getting hit to burst with holy light disorienting people around you

 

[glancealot]

holy tree doesn't need to be amazing, the fact we get blessing of freedom is enough incentive for me to keep my toon with updated gears and enchants for DF.

 

[Chops]

 

[Ivo]

Can't wait for all the people who use purge to be glorified as 300iq players