Suggestion for MM hunter weapon

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  1. Clant

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    Now that our artifacts are obsolete, have any hunters dialed into what weapons form the 'better' part of the scale, if any? I'm guessing BfA dungeon, if they can proc secondary and socket, but it doesn't seem to do so from wowhead.

    Also, have any hunters tested and confirmed that the proc from https://www.wowhead.com/item=9412/galganns-fireblaster?bonus=6710 (Galgann's Fireblaster-Chance on Hit fire damage) works? The comments on wowhead are years old, and I know Venomstrike has been broken since forever ago.

    Update: Got it on the 5th kill. It still works. 2PPM. Can crit. Works in PvP for around the same amount as it hits in dungeon.
     
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  2. Vyvenem

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    I use this:
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    It's probably not the best, but it has some amazing crit/haste.
     
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  3. Infomerc

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    Not sure if it has any long-term life but strangely, https://www.wowhead.com/item=15995/thorium-rifle
    compares well with several others. No secondaries, but those get nerfed in BG...how much?
    1 more agi, and 10% more dps (5.0) than the Dragon Slayer. Maybe just a stopgap.
     
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  4. Celydar

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    .02 percent drop rate or off the AH, some peeps already have this one:

    https://www.wowhead.com/item=2100/precisely-calibrated-boomstick?bonus=6661

    As f2p with no AH access, not even gonna try and spend hours upon hours farming it.

    Sticking with

    https://www.wowhead.com/item=39487/dragon-slayers-shortbow?bonus=6691
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2021, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2021 ---
    Also, the PvP crate (if you can get a drop)
    Blue ilvl 26 Recruits Bow, or Rifle of the Quickblade/Fireflash, etc are decent.
     
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    I thought it could get 14/14 - my blue roll went 13/13(might have been 12/12 ill double check) i think(tried to roll this once). If its 13/13 it may be worse than harmonious bows with socket/leech/speed though the stamina def gives it an edge. Might not be worth rerolling for though if you're already geared out with ilvl 28 peices
     
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  7. Lateraldrop

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    could be wrong about the number, could be 14/14Ii haven't seen an epic one drop yet. Either way I think it is worth a mention in the thread about good/best weapon options.

    my i28s are not soul bound yet ;)
     
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  8. Malgibbon

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    have exactly the same problem. Argus may be BIS. Would love to see an epic one. Already hating farming ilvl 25 boe
     
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    I promise you a 100% it wont take long until you hate rerolling for something like that either.
     
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  10. Malgibbon

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    Yea had a feeling rerolling for argus would suck just as much - getting a double proc is pretty unlikely.

    That being said - i'm literally on 0 BOE bows despite farming freehold for hours
     
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    Having some trouble seeing accurate stat numbers of others, how does ilvl28 Needle Threader compare to other BoE options?

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    If that can't drop with a socket its worthelss
     
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  13. Infomerc

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    Not convinced this is true. @Destur 's bow and @zazzyfraz 's PCB are both gf'd.
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/maximumrange
    These gf'd guns/bows can only 'drop' into our AHs or in an old 'mule', and never have been able to get a socket. However...
    The gf'd versions have higher than current dps...5.2 dps, in these two cases.

    All the BFA bows/guns I'm seeing are rlvl 19, ilvl 25, with 4.7 dps. So, these gf'd versions, are coming in at base dps 10% higher than any BFA BoEs. Combined primary and combined secondary stats are comparable, for overall gain. I don't see what you would put in the socket to gain 10% dps.
     
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    not that this assessment isnt correct, but when most people talk about acquiring gear, they generally default to realistic options and ignore highly GFd gear that can cost upwards of a goldcap to acquire.

    Yes, boomstick is technically bis and doesnt have a socket. But its also not a realistic option for most people and 100% not an option for F2P.
     
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    Didn't realise that was GF'ed, neat I guess
     
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  16. Infomerc

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    A bit of a contradiction: if someone thinks that blue bow's worthless, then they'll put it up on the AH for say ...5000g. Good if it ends up with one of us, and bad if with some leveler. I'm hoping Destur didn't put the 'worthless blue' up on the AH, or pass on a good AH price. From his 'neat' reply, sounds like he's an Owner, in both senses of the word.

    Folks need to watch the gf'd vs non/current. If you're not searching for blues, or you're paying big gold for a current non-BIS PCB, that's a mistake.
    Fixed.
     
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    Added info for Precisely Calibrated

    Tested vs an artifact bow Thas'dorah, without any other gears on a lvl19 mm hunter (both have a +2 dmg enchant):

    Aim shot dmg for precisely calibrated is 337 and for Thas'dorah it is 302

    For the test I used a ilvl25 precisely calibrated that has 16 agility and the Thas'dorah is ilvl23

    There is a higher version of precisely calibrated for lvl19, it is ilvl28 with 17 agility

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    Lol! Is that a guild bank full of them?!
     
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    :D:D:D
     
  20. Destur

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    upload_2021-9-15_16-29-16.png

    Have been checking different weapons on my hunter since it has sub time at the moment, the difference between each seems fairly small. I would expect PCB to come in around 940ish aimed shot damage, so a decent amount above everything else in raw damage at the cost of 10 stam and secondaries. Not sure how much it would vary depending on how other hunters are geared

    Hunter used: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/khazgoroth/kirillia
     
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