State of 19's

[Thotfc]

How do people even enjoy this bracket?

1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds

5. This bracket seems unbalanced

Why do you enjoy it?

So something I've noticed is there's a damage difference between someone with really strong grandfathered gear/enchants. With BFA having no stat templates and grandfathered gear actually showing differences, what are some ways this can be avoided? ......... [Go to 29s]

Also another thing I want to note is the hunter scope "Flintlocke's Woodchucker" giving a 70ish Agi proc. Making it so a geared hunter's Aimed Shot hits for 450 give or take, no shield. Line that up as double hunter and a boomkin and something is sure to melt quickly, if not instantly.

I feel like this 'damage only' meta is very poor for tournament and wargame game play. Kills should be coordinated not only by someone saying "go this target", but also with CC on the healer(s).

Your's truly Thotfc

 

[Veechard]

I find that when I queue with a few other people, and land in a group against another 5 man premade, the game plays out quite fair. Closest game I’ve had only our team scored within the last 2 minutes. Otherwise it was a back and forth struggle, with a lot of it boiling down to skill and placement.

So I couldn’t disagree with this post more. Just has to be twink v twink game to be balanced
[doublepost=1532949888,1532949566][/doublepost]Also I might add that queue times are 2 minutes when it’s hot. So idk what you mean by queue times are the worst.

 

[LulzSecz]

I agree with all of the points that you made, Thot; however, it's worth nothing that all of them have been true for many years. People, usually endgame bads, flock to this bracket with overpowered gear, one shot levellers, and then receive an ego boost that makes them think of themselves as good players, when in reality, they are usually just bullying kids who are new to the game. 19s is a sad affair indeed. Basically zero major offensive or defensive cooldowns, very few CC abilities, it's just a low-skill bracket. The circle jerk on these forums make people think otherwise, but don't kid yourselves, you're probably just an endgame shitter.
Cheers.

 

[Sairentokira]

The 19 bracket doesn't build character it reveals it. You can sit and farm levelers and think you're the greatest twink alive, which is fine, you pay a monthly sub so enjoy yourself! But, war games are a thing, and so are premades, if you're not a good twink then other twinks will run over you like you run over the levelers. It's a very fun and interesting bracket - if you're not a complete idiot

 

[LulzSecz]

The 19 bracket doesn't build character it reveals it. You can sit and farm levelers and think you're the greatest twink alive, which is fine, you pay a monthly sub so enjoy yourself! But, war games are a thing, and so are premades, if you're not a good twink then other twinks will run over you like you run over the levelers. It's a very fun and interesting bracket - if you're not a complete idiot

Spamming the 3 or 4 rotational abilities that you have in this bracket - with zero regard for offensive or defensive cooldowns or CC - does not make you a good player. Also, while it may be "fun and interesting", both of which are subjective terms, it is nowhere near as competitive as endgame. Anyone who thinks otherwise must be an idiot.

 

[Quack]

How do people even enjoy this bracket?

1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds

5. This bracket is trash

6. come to 20-29s It's way more balanced in terms of burstyness and getting completely globaled by procs and not good players.






Your's truly Thotfc

1) Queue times are 8 minutes around this time for me when I was queueing 3 mans yday.
2) Same with Most brackets.
3) Same with Most Brackets.
4) Same with Most Brackets.
( all including ur shit 29s bracket ^ )
5) So are you but its a little bit irrelevant and also an opinion.
6) Imagine playing a bracket for Pugs alone and not coz ur friends play within it / the competitive 10v10s.
lmao ur a fkn idiot get out the bracket and stay out

 

[Nitten19]

How do people even enjoy this bracket?

1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds

5. This bracket is trash

6. come to 20-29s It's way more balanced in terms of burstyness and getting completely globaled by procs and not good players.






Your's truly Thotfc

Please come back and play for a week then quit again.

 

[DAXinko]

How do people even enjoy this bracket?

1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds

5. This bracket is trash

6. come to 20-29s It's way more balanced in terms of burstyness and getting completely globaled by procs and not good players.






Your's truly Thotfc

Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to "Twinking is bad and you should stop" part 24597!

 

[partygirl]

theres around 5 teams that are looking to play premades and some already have, also 19s is the only bracket where plebmades happen consistantly. If you're looking to play "twinks" anywhere competetively 19s is where it is at, the only thing 29s has to offer is mediocre pugs.

 

[Allybeboba]

I agree with all of the points that you made, Thot; however, it's worth nothing that all of them have been true for many years. People, usually endgame bads, flock to this bracket with overpowered gear, one shot levellers, and then receive an ego boost that makes them think of themselves as good players, when in reality, they are usually just bullying kids who are new to the game. 19s is a sad affair indeed. Basically zero major offensive or defensive cooldowns, very few CC abilities, it's just a low-skill bracket. The circle jerk on these forums make people think otherwise, but don't kid yourselves, you're probably just an endgame shitter.
Cheers.

All one has to do now is look at player’s honor level now and see how much end level PvP they have done.
In practically all of the games I have played only about 10-20% of the players have an honor level at all. I think I ran across one that had more than an honor level 50.

/cheers

 

[Light]

All one has to do now is look at player’s honor level now and see how much end level PvP they have done.
In practically all of the games I have played only about 10-20% of the players have an honor level at all. I think I ran across one that had more than an honor level 50.

/cheers

Honor level doesn’t mean anything btw
It’s actually sad to see some 500+ backpedaling

 

[Allybeboba]

1) Queue times are 8 minutes around this time for me when I was queueing 3 mans yday.
2) Same with Most brackets.
3) Same with Most Brackets.
4) Same with Most Brackets.
( all including ur shit 29s bracket ^ )
5) So are you but its a little bit irrelevant and also an opinion.
6) Imagine playing a bracket for Pugs alone and not coz ur friends play within it / the competitive 10v10s.
lmao ur a fkn idiot get out the bracket and stay out

Kek...
1. Queue times are long for 19’s, just face it. It is just the way it is. Even as a solo heal they are long for me.
2-4 under 2 min in 20-29 as a Horde healer.
5. Kek.. your answer is a personal insult. The second you insult someone you lose the debate.
6. “Real” competition in team PvP is a end game my friend. Anything else is child’s play. Now, I understand not everyone can handle end game PvP or has time for end game PvP. Playing lowbies isn’t remotely like endgame PvP. It a simplified version of it. That is partly why there are no ratings in the lower brackets. Playing lowbies and thinking it is “competivive” is akin to thinking professional rock/paper/scissors is “competitive”. And professional rock/paper/scissors exists! I know it is a tough pill to swallow, but it is the truth.
Kek... and another insult at the end. You really can’t help yourself.

/cheers
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Honor level doesn’t mean anything btw
It’s actually sad to see some 500+ backpedaling

It really doesn’t. It just means you grinded out honor levels at end game. If you don’t have any honor levels it just means you didn’t bother doing it.
An extremely low percentage of the WoW population had gotten to honor level 50 before 7.3. I mostly did it for the mounts. All it took was a few BGs a day each and every day.


/cheers

 

[Bung]

 

[Quack]

6. “Real” competition in team PvP is a end game my friend.


/cheers

this is another reason why i cant take u serious

 

[Cleatuss]

How do people even enjoy this bracket?

1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds

5. This bracket is trash

6. come to 20-29s It's way more balanced in terms of burstyness and getting completely globaled by procs and not good players.






Your's truly Thotfc

Sounds like some salty survival hunters have left the building. 19s are just fine.

 

[Psilocybine]

Awwww another qq thread about twinks being overpowered...... on a twink forum.

Let that sink in for a sec

 

[Chainz]

Probably got called fat 2 many times by 19s again, unlucky

 

[Miles]

Thot's post are always entertaining or atleast the comments are.

 

[Deceptionsz]

The post I made wasn’t about random bgs.. it’s about tournament play / twink cup. I wouldn’t be interested in the tc if it was in any other bracket than 19s.

 

[Veechard]

I’ve heard in the past someone complain about ret pallys and marks hunters, and how they just arnt strong enough.

My guess is people are trying to solo queue, then making a opinion of the bracket because your class and spec is bad when not queued with other twinks.

Because I personally have a ret pally and if played right, they happen to be extemely OP.

If your sitting there complaining how priests are OP, find a priest to queue with you or make one yourself. If rogues and fury warriors are nothing you, get a shrink ray or a netomatic.

The main thing is that there really arnt FOTM at the moment other than arcane mages, also with the right group comp, and enough twinks vs twinks, 19s can be really fair atm