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As a Ret Pally, should I prioritize agility or strength. For example. Use +3 stam/str or +5stam +4 agi cloak? Enchant for gloves use +7str or +7 agi?
 
As a Ret Pally, should I prioritize agility or strength. For example. Use +3 stam/str or +5stam +4 agi cloak? Enchant for gloves use +7str or +7 agi?
19 Ret Pally is one of my favorite twinks tbh. I would suggest going 3/3 Bear cape and 7 Strength enchant to Gloves.

Ironically, I feel like the best Ret build is sword and board.

I used this build on Northdale and loved it:
https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-set/19-offense-pally-phase-3-7136.

There's definitely a right and wrong way to play Ret at 19.

I've seen a ton of 19 Ret Pallies only use Glacial Stone and not spec into Guardian's Favor. These same pallies would get destroyed by Rogues and Hunters and were generally really squishy.
 
19 Ret Pally is one of my favorite twinks tbh. I would suggest going 3/3 Bear cape and 7 Strength enchant to Gloves.

Ironically, I feel like the best Ret build is sword and board.

I used this build on Northdale and loved it:
https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-set/19-offense-pally-phase-3-7136.

There's definitely a right and wrong way to play Ret at 19.

I've seen a ton of 19 Ret Pallies only use Glacial Stone and not spec into Guardian's Favor. These same pallies would get destroyed by Rogues and Hunters and were generally really squishy.


Thanks for the info!
 
How are you giving advice on a ret build then give all prot talents and a 1h+shield??? That’s a prot pally not ret....

Back in vanilla i dont remember anyone running the 2h strictly because the damage isnt that good. Sure you might get some big swings once a while but most of the time you will get rolled before you can really do anything worth while.
 
Quick question

i just couldnt resist

how many years have you been playing pally in general and how long have you been playing vanilla pally?

I started in Cata and finished in WoD. And I played in Classic for like a month.

if that’s a subtle insult that’s fine, I’m no vanilla expert, but you’ll have hard time convincing me that 100% prot talents paladin is ret.
 
If you want to have fun as a twink ret paladin I suggest you bump up one bracket to 29. Corpsemaker with crusader and your seals and judgements hit super hard. I did it vanilla and bc, and I absolutely wrecked face. 19 paladin just seems gross, then again, I'm not big at all on 19's.
 
How are you giving advice on a ret build then give all prot talents and a 1h+shield??? That’s a prot pally not ret....
I've tried 2H Ret and 1H Ret on Lightbringer and Northdale respectively and found 1H was objectively better. The Ret talents at 19 are complete garbage compared to 19 Prot talents.

1. 5/5 Redoubt gives you a huge boost to damage mitigation against Warriors, Hunters, and Rogues.
2. 2/2 Guardian's Favor allows you to have near 100% uptime on Blessing of Freedom. This is OP for FCing, escorting FCs, and killing Mages, Hunters, and Warriors. When I played Horde and noticed Pallies that didn't run this, they were a joke to control and kill.
3. 3/3 Precision is basically the icing on the cake. You need 5% to be hit capped against players of your own level, so getting over halfway there takes out a lot of unfavorable RNG.
 
I've tried 2H Ret and 1H Ret on Lightbringer and Northdale respectively and found 1H was objectively better. The Ret talents at 19 are complete garbage compared to 19 Prot talents.

1. 5/5 Redoubt gives you a huge boost to damage mitigation against Warriors, Hunters, and Rogues.
2. 2/2 Guardian's Favor allows you to have near 100% uptime on Blessing of Freedom. This is OP for FCing, escorting FCs, and killing Mages, Hunters, and Warriors. When I played Horde and noticed Pallies that didn't run this, they were a joke to control and kill.
3. 3/3 Precision is basically the icing on the cake. You need 5% to be hit capped against players of your own level, so getting over halfway there takes out a lot of unfavorable RNG.

If you take all prot talents why not just call it prot.
 
If you take all prot talents why not just call it prot.
What you can spec into at 19's is so small / limited, to put points into Ret and call yourself a Ret Pally is dumb. Instead their is FC Paladin, OR Heal/Support Paladin.

In 19's in Classic, the Points you are able to point in are so minimal, That putting points into that specific tree doesn't make you X type of Class. Like for Paladins, there is 2 Types. Flag Carrier Paladin and Support Paladin.

Flag Carrier CARRY's Flag. Support Freedom's main DPS on O PREFERABLY melee like Rogue/Warrior's while tossing heals and doing minimal DMG. While Switching to a 2H to output much damage as possible when needed.

Wasting the Small 10 Points you got at 19's in the Ret Tree for either Max 20% increase melee AP bonus from BoM or reduce mana cost of up to 15% on your Judgement / Seal Spells.

With a Mixture of either 2 Sec decrease on Judgement 1-5% chance of Parry and or 5-10-15% increase in your Melee AP bonus of crusader + Holy DMG on Judgement just to call yourself a ''Retribution'' paladin is retarded.

Lot of times too at 19's you're spreading your Talent Points so most of the time they aren't all in one Specific Tree.

Edit: It's usually more so the Choice of Gear / Enchants that differentiates yourself amongst other's of the same Class in 19's at least.
 
What you can spec into at 19's is so small / limited, to put points into Ret and call yourself a Ret Pally is dumb. Instead their is FC Paladin, OR Heal/Support Paladin.

In 19's in Classic, the Points you are able to point in are so minimal, That putting points into that specific tree doesn't make you X type of Class. Like for Paladins, there is 2 Types. Flag Carrier Paladin and Support Paladin.

Flag Carrier CARRY's Flag. Support Freedom's main DPS on O PREFERABLY melee like Rogue/Warrior's while tossing heals and doing minimal DMG. While Switching to a 2H to output much damage as possible when needed.

Wasting the Small 10 Points you got at 19's in the Ret Tree for either Max 20% increase melee AP bonus from BoM or reduce mana cost of up to 15% on your Judgement / Seal Spells.

With a Mixture of either 2 Sec decrease on Judgement 1-5% chance of Parry and or 5-10-15% increase in your Melee AP bonus of crusader + Holy DMG on Judgement just to call yourself a ''Retribution'' paladin is retarded.

Lot of times too at 19's you're spreading your Talent Points so most of the time they aren't all in one Specific Tree.


That's perfectly fine, just don't call it ret then lol
 
That's perfectly fine, just don't call it ret then lol
Ok So you agree with my Post? If you read it then you'd see where I say it's dumb to differentiate a Class at 19's by what tree you put your points in.

OP of thread is just asking a question and maybe not as experience to know the differences so maybe when they are refereeing to Ret Paladin that they possibly meant a DPS/Support Paladin.
 
Ok So you agree with my Post? If you read it then you'd see where I say it's dumb to differentiate a Class at 19's by what tree you put your points in.

OP of thread is just asking a question and maybe not as experience to know the differences so maybe when they are refereeing to Ret Paladin that they possibly meant a DPS/Support Paladin.

Yes, I agree.
 
Crystal has a point tho…. he literally called it ret:

edit- wow, multiquote is seriously against working for me...
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I feel like the best Ret build is sword and board.

I used this build on Northdale and loved it:
https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-set/19-offense-pally-phase-3-7136.

There's definitely a right and wrong way to play Ret at 19.
[doublepost=1573413846][/doublepost]I don't think crystal is trying to be anything contrary, just easier to say that the best wat to play ret at 19 is to play prot.

Not call prot ret instead. That's not helping anyone, IMO.
 
I mean sure call it Prot.

All I'm saying is don't be one of the shitter Pallies who specs full Ret at 19 with Glacial Stone.
 

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