Replacement for Steady Talasite

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  1. fairlina

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    Please tell me which stones are the most relevant now? As I understand it, we have no equivalent replacement.
     
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    ohti madman Moderator

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    3 stam or 2 main stat 2 stam are closest equivalents
     
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    For int classes +2int/+2vers continue to be exceptional.

    For leather agility classes +2agi/+2armor is good.

    Everyone else doesn’t have great options. DPS will often just want 3 mainstat, unless they scale particularly well with haste or crit.
     
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    Тhank you guys! =)
     
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    2 agi 2 stam exists
     
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    If I wanted my windwalker, feral, rogue, or demon hunter to be tankier I’d rather the armor.
     
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    Inferior choice but but you do you
     
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    Yeah, if only math was on my side or something.
     
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    its not.
     
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    In the end the 2 armor or Stam ain’t gonna save you from 3x raptor strikes lol.

    stack the offensive stats.
     
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    +2main stat +2stam are the best , +3stam gems are bad.
     
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    Armor only works against melee while stamina works against both melee & magical dmg so overall stamina is the better choice
     
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    I'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here. If I'm reading this right, it's telling me that 2 stam is better than 2 armor until you have a 4k-7.5k HP pool to take advantage of that armor. And you are never going to have that much HP if you are using 2 armor gems.

    And this is all assuming that you never take any magical damage, which is of course preposterous.

    Like, I could devise a contrived hypothetical situation where armor would be better if I really squinted hard enough. But with any sense of practicality, it really can't see it.
     
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    How much damage do I need to take from a mage before armor > stam?
     
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    ~6k, all in auto attacks
     
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    The advice was only for leather agility users, since at ~50 armor you just need to take ~4000 physical damage before armor surpasses and then continues to outperform Stam.

    That’s also linear in effectiveness versus damage, so after ~2000 physical damage you essentially already have half the benefit that Stamina would give you.

    And in general, this is for a leather user that is trying to be tanky and utility focused. All it takes is a single heal or potion before you see the benefit of armor.

    But yeah, cloth users have Int/Vers which is better, and Mail+Plate users already have high armor.

    But for BG-utility focused rogues and demon hunters, it’s good.

    TLDR: lol. wtf is math, lol?
     
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    TLDR: are you like trying to be dumb on purpose at this point or?
     
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    ah yes, bgs. Full of nothing but warriors.
     

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