Mistweaver 20 - only option Fistweaving?

icehawk

icehawk

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Hi guys, was hoping to get some advice from some 20 Mistweavers if possible.

My sub expires in about 20 days, and I was thinking of making a Vet healer, and the Mistweaver appeals to me. While sub'd, I actually made a 24 Mistweaver some years back [when the bracket was 20 - 24], and I took her out last night and healed some guards to see if things had changed, and I noticed a horrible change to their mechanics. Soothing Mist no longer generates Chi, which means no instant pop Surging Mist or Enveloping Mist. These were key to Mistweaver healing.

Does that mean as a 20 Mistweaver, we can only really Fistweave and have to fight with Eminence to be an effective healer?

If that is the case, is there anyone that could confirm how effective a Mistweaver is as a 20, and is Fistweaving the only real option we would have to heal?

Any thoughts / comments from some Misties out there would be great.
 
I cant confirm as I dont have a vet mistweaver but I know they are quite nice atm, and will heal good. As far as vet healers go I think Disc/MW are the best, followed by shaman and the rest of them.
 
You got it backwards.

Fistweaving isn't an option. Mistweaving is the only option. 2nd strongest healer imo.
 
Soothing Mist makes Surging Mist instant while it is being channeled. Surging Mist generates Chi.
 
Yasueh said:
Soothing Mist makes Surging Mist instant while it is being channeled. Surging Mist generates Chi.
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I thought you needed Chi to be able to use even the instant cast Surging Mist? Maybe my 24's UI wasn't up to date but my Surging Mist didn't appear useable without Chi (haven't played my 24 in a few years). I noticed Soothing Mist no longer generated Chi, where as I recall using Soothing Mist till you had some Chi then you could insta-cast Enveloping Mists and Surging Mist. Well some time back anyhow.

Seems I got it wrong then? I'll have to try my 24 again tonight. I was only able to generate Chi with Renewing Mists which isn't available to 20, which is why I thought you can only generate Chi by fighting at 20.

If you get Surging Mists as instant cast and it generates Chi, then I guess that would make Mistweavers still viable, and strong.

Sorry for the confusion, and thanks Mrcer and Yasueh for clearing that up.

It now provides motivation for making that 20 Vet Mistweaver before suby expires :)
 
Icehawk said:
I thought you needed Chi to be able to use even the instant cast Surging Mist? Maybe my 24's UI wasn't up to date but my Surging Mist didn't appear useable without Chi (haven't played my 24 in a few years). I noticed Soothing Mist no longer generated Chi, where as I recall using Soothing Mist till you had some Chi then you could insta-cast Enveloping Mists and Surging Mist. Well some time back anyhow.

Seems I got it wrong then? I'll have to try my 24 again tonight. I was only able to generate Chi with Renewing Mists which isn't available to 20, which is why I thought you can only generate Chi by fighting at 20.

If you get Surging Mists as instant cast and it generates Chi, then I guess that would make Mistweavers still viable, and strong.

Sorry for the confusion, and thanks Mrcer and Yasueh for clearing that up.

It now provides motivation for making that 20 Vet Mistweaver before suby expires :)
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You have 3 spells now
Soothing mist the Green Chanel Ray that heals and makes other heals Instant
Enveloping mist big hot ticks that cost Chi
Surging mist added in wod and is a heal available to all monk specs. This will generate Chi when Soothing mist is being channeled this allowed you to control how much Chi you want since this will heal alot and generates Chi alot faster than in mop but very mana consuming.

That's about as clearing I can make it.
 
MW are very very fun. You go OOM quite fast is you enchant to haste. But you can always just rely on soothing mists since it takes very little mana. Just carry a lot of potions. They are very maneuverable. Even under water in AB! Kek!
Their biggest drawback is they are pretty easy to lock out because surging mists is channeled and when in healing stance you really do not have any offensive capabilities. Your only choice is to either take GCD to change stances or ROLL away. I put a nice little guide below. It is from the 19's sections. It will get you started though. Almost all of the gear is the same except a few items. You can look at some of the healer armories here in the 20 section. But, for the most part, a 19 and 20 vet/sub are the same, save a spell or two. I believe MW get detox(dispel) and zen pilgrimage(cheap int food).

http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f204/neaps-guide-mistweaving-19-a-46576/

Sweetsidney
 
Allybeboba said:
zen pilgrimage(cheap int food).
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Thanks for your helpful post Allybeboba. The 19 guide is very useful also.
I am definitely going to make a Vet Mistweaver before my sub expires in about 3 weeks.
Can I just clarify something with you however, you mentioned Zen Pilgrimage (cheap Int food)? Is there somewhere in Pandaria you can buy food with an Int buff? sorry if I'm asking a silly question, but would be great to know if there is. Then I won't have to worry about levelling cooking.
Thanks again for your helpful post.

Thanks to everyone who's posted above.
 
Icehawk said:
Thanks for your helpful post Allybeboba. The 19 guide is very useful also.
I am definitely going to make a Vet Mistweaver before my sub expires in about 3 weeks.
Can I just clarify something with you however, you mentioned Zen Pilgrimage (cheap Int food)? Is there somewhere in Pandaria you can buy food with an Int buff? sorry if I'm asking a silly question, but would be great to know if there is. Then I won't have to worry about levelling cooking.
Thanks again for your helpful post.

Thanks to everyone who's posted above.
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Yes the place you to with ZP has a vendor that sells int or agi food.
 
The new DMF is not all that bad either. But I have found that MW benefit more from int. If memory serves the int food is +9. That is +18 for Pandaren! Practically like an extra enchant.

I gear my MW almost just like my shaman. Many people prefer a high haste, high spell power builds. MWs lends themselves well to this philosophy but have a couple drawbacks because of their ability to be easily spell locked.

Sweetsidney
 
Mol said:
Dancingroot

Young Thug D-Root plays Vet MW Monk lately and imo, he is doing a really good job!

Can you contribute something to this thread maybe?

Greetings
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Haha jajaja :)
My opinion.

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Tigers L ust
Rolls
Dispell
Strong Healz

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Low Off-dps

Also link to my Vet monk: Dancingbad @ Aggramar - Community - World of Warcraft
Want to swap kellers for satchel, but lazy. Aaaand if I had another Magefist, I would probly go with glove reinforcement. (My twink used to be f2p restricted).
 
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Yes, good idea to stop xp at lvl 15 and just grind those random instance runs out until you get that vision belt.
Why 15? At 15, you only have RFC and DM. And those are short. You can almost solo those even as a MW. Yell at the beginning of a run that you are going fast and run to just before each boss gathering all the mobs and let the DPS kill them off. You can be done with each instance rather quickly. With any luck, your group will just tag along. Just keep rinsing and reaping until you get your belt.
You can even don a faction tabard to help with rep.

Sweetsidney
 
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