US Legion in a nutshell

Discussion in 'Level 20-29' started by Lil, Jul 20, 2016.

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  1. Lil

    Lil SV huntard

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    Same people from WoD except gy farming is now ok I guess since queues are faster? (5 other of my 8 bgs were gy farming too.. Not giving all the credit to solely these bads)

    Horde facerolls even more now due to 29s getting more OP.

    Competitiveness wise (taking out the 29s and favorable comps) the bracket is pretty close atm besides maybe rogues.

    Here's to hoping they fix the hit chance by the next update!
     
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  2. Leek

    Leek Veteran

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    Seems pretty 50/50 for faction strength
    Won 2 on horde 2 on alli
     
  3. Druiddroid

    Druiddroid Member Moderator

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    we capped them fast, it's containment, 8 mins left in that game and we about to 3rd cap. not our problem alliance sucks bawls, time to roll 29, like the real old school OGs :cool:
     
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  4. Envius

    Envius Veteran

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    Haha I see four friends in that picture! Looks like a rough game for ally though. Also, have you tried out BM yet? I honestly prefer it to survival, at least for now. Maybe it's just because I'm not a fan of melee in general though.
     
  5. Gokku

    Gokku juggin n finessin

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    Horde seems to gy every game I was in rip cata all over again time to roll 29 and que with 2 outlaw rogues and a healer and another front line dps
     
  6. Jamesb

    Jamesb OG Breh

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    Playin tonight. Running 5-10 mans all night. Can't wait boys!!!
     
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  7. Nodoka

    Nodoka Contributor

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    I could do with some bacon about now.

    And did someone say hunters? [​IMG]
     
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  8. Naxxramaskid

    Naxxramaskid Everybody Hates Naxxkid

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    yeah i don't know why anybody would choose melee over ranged in random battlegrounds. unless you enjoy being targeted and taking damage left and right 24/7.
     
  9. Taylondor

    Taylondor Git Gud

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    Melee this xpac seem like suicide unless you are rogue
     
  10. Nodoka

    Nodoka Contributor

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    Surv hunter very strong atm, x2 throwing axes and finish with flanking strike.

    One throwing axe attack attack did 50% to a 19 leveling hunt.. So yeah Surv hunt ftw atm : )
    Besides its fun gameplay
     
  11. FourCornersStance

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    Affl locks and hunters everywhere. Good thing I still have my shaman. Only healer with a Dispel at 20 besides druid i think.
    Melee is dead especially because hit is once again important.
     
  12. Miles

    Miles 546-0 Undefeated Arena Champion

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    Tons of 20s QQing...lol. Love it.
     
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  13. Taylondor

    Taylondor Git Gud

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    Yea, i'm deff having some Deja Vu here
     
  14. Swoops

    Swoops Grandfathered

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    I've had pretty close games playing ally, and absolute stomps on horde. Missing on 29s is a bit annoying, but idk if I'd say they got more OP. You can borderline carry on a 20 in full pug games. A squishy melee spec with no sustain just doesn't seem like the class to do it.
     
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    Lil

    Lil SV huntard

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    I have roughly a 30-40% miss chance according to recount on 29s.. Even if the gear disparity got better I'd consider 20s missing 1/3 of their attacks to be 29s getting more OP.

    If they fix hit/maybe give back scaling (which I assume they will since every bracket has the same problem) and nerf a couple things here and there (which again I'm sure they will since it's a problem in most brackets) then this bracket has some potential. Only thing blizz can't control is the gy farming and faction disparity
     
  16. Ursock

    Ursock New Member

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    what addon do you use to make your chat that font? (if its not an addon then where in settings is it?)
     
  17. Nodoka

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    No addons at all. Its just a different font
     
  18. Shockadingle

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    My thoughts/analysis of gy farming to pass a quiet evening while the private server downloads:

    GY farming is bad only if someone holds the flag instead of capping, to draw out the game on purpose. Otherwise, it's just a good strategy. Keep the enemy team locked in a small area so you can run the flag back and forth 3x for the fast win. Less time chasing people who have no chance to win across the map. Greater efficiency, faster game ending so everyone can sooner get into a hopefully more even game.

    It is worth noting, btw, that fighting out of one's graveyard imparts a huge advantage, so if a team is getting farmed in their gy, they'd have no chance fighting in the field.
    This is because: 1. Focus and energy don't get used for the first few seconds after resurrecting in gy. On my hunter, I used to rez, explosive shot, and spam about 7-8 arcane shots into somebody before running out of focus and health. I almost always got top damage over anyone on the team that was farming us.
    2. If I killed one doing that, they had to rez(1-30 seconds) and ride back across the field for an additional 20 seconds or so to get back to combat
    3. All the ranged classes can just step behind unassailable LoS any time they feel like it to avoid taking damage.
    4. If the dominant team has melee classes in your gy, your team can LoS their ground support and 10v1 or 10v2 them. Again, that huge positional advantage. I'm not saying this does happen, only that the advantage/potential is there.


    There's a common tendency in humanity to mistake effect for cause. People notice a correlation between getting roflstomped and getting gy farmed and sometimes, without realizing it, unconsciously assume that getting gy farmed is the reason they are getting roflstomped. 'If we could just make it out into those wide green pastures of the gulch, what glory would await us!" But sadly, no. Getting roflestomped is the cause, and getting gy farmed is the effect. The team got stomped in the field first. That's how they ended up in the gy where they have the highest advantage.
    The nicest thing the dominant team can do in that situation for the losing team is to keep them bottled in their gy and dead while running the flag 3x as quickly as possible to end the mismatch. They are to be commended, as long as someone is running the flag.*

    *Also, in the first week of an expansion patch, people may forget to(or not want to) run the flag, because they are there to test the class changes.

    Recommendations:
    I actually kind of ENJOY getting gy farmed. Here's why. I change my goal from winning the bg(which is not going to happen) to some alternate personal goal that I have a reasonable chance of achieving. If I'm a dps class, it's usually to try to get top dmg over the all the 29s farming us - a worthy goal but possible with the gy advantages. It's a fun challenge. You KNOW all those 29 BMs, or w/e is the new dps fotm, are gonna check the dmg column after the match to see who did the most, and be like 'wtf!'
    If I'm a healer, I might try to get top healing, which is fairly easy since my team is taking so much damage. The enemy healers don't have anything to heal. Or, if I decide my team mates are simply not worth healing, I try to see how much damage I can do, maybe out-damage all of them and get top healing. It's like a whole different mini-game, like the one to get the sunflower pet. A fun change of pace from capture-the-flag.
    If I'm a stealthy, I might try to sneak out of the gy and gank some squishy target in the back.
    If the enemy team is drawing out the game on purpose(which is lame), I like to try to get to their flag room right at the end, grab the flag and stop their third cap (mostly did that back when people got honor points per cap, and the points were useful.)
    And finally, it's a good time to leave the battleground and do Arena Skirmishes, OR, go afk and make a sandwich. And there's always porn. God bless pornography, and all those beautiful hoes.
     
  19. Druiddroid

    Druiddroid Member Moderator

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    afaik, the semantics go like this:

    GY Camping = stalling game (intentionally not capping), farming GY
    GY Containment = capping flags, farming GY
     
  20. Jamesb

    Jamesb OG Breh

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    We are twinks lets show it. When my 5 man hits the gulch you can bet we whole heartedly plan to GY contain.
     
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