PTR Incomplete classes @ level 10. Shadowlands

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    • How are you guys feeling about class design at level ten?
    Many classes seem to be very incomplete, even lacking talents.
    If the bracket is going to be 10-19, which I can't find a statement about, it will be very imba.
     
    Chops said:
    welcome to low level twinking. I hope you enjoy your stay
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    Listen, I didn't came here to complain about imbalance.

    Most expansions had the decency to give most classes core builders/spenders at the F2P level.

    It looks to be very clunky in Shadowlands.
     
    I will continue to pop arenas, especially when large scale changes like yesterday/this morning happen on PTR. I retain some (not much) optimism that perhaps abilities become available when scaled up to 19.

    Hoping that the tooltip saying I gained X abilities when I scaled up wasnt a mistake and just needs to be implemented.
     
    BANKONE said:
    I will continue to pop arenas, especially when large scale changes like yesterday/this morning happen on PTR. I retain some (not much) optimism that perhaps abilities become available when scaled up to 19.

    Hoping that the tooltip saying I gained X abilities when I scaled up wasnt a mistake and just needs to be implemented.
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    Can you enlighten me what the PvP brackets are?
     
    Ive only tested 10-19. Confirm that its 19 for us. (XP Off Separated)

    Would imagine that other brackets follow suit.
     
    handsomedgc said:
    Most expansions had the decency to give most classes core builders/spenders at the F2P level.
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    all classes do have that, just not all specs.

    fury warrior, holy pally, ele shaman, feral/resto druid, rogues, MM hunter, destro lock, H Priest, MW and WW monk, arcane mage...

    Some kits are fuller than others *coughMMcough* but every class has at least one spec thats got a viable kit.
     
    BANKONE said:
    I will continue to pop arenas, especially when large scale changes like yesterday/this morning happen on PTR. I retain some (not much) optimism that perhaps abilities become available when scaled up to 19.

    Hoping that the tooltip saying I gained X abilities when I scaled up wasnt a mistake and just needs to be implemented.
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    Have you tried any /cast macros? Maybe they work even if the spells aren't showing on the bars or in the spell book?
     
    I agree that lvl 10 feels very clunky with no real rotation that seems to work. I’m hoping they allow F2P to go to 15 or 20.
    My Hunter improved a heap at lvl 11 with focus regen, so even 1 level made a huge difference.
    And my Prot Warrior is woeful at 10. Can’t build rage so u spend ages white hitting. Tanking is disgusting at 10.
    By 15, we get a talent and additional abilities so I’m really.... really hoping they allow us to be 15 or 20.
     
    Chey said:
    pretty sure the idea is to dangle the carrot at FTP, not provide reasons to keep playing without paying.
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    This is true, but even the most recent set of trial account abilities made each spec fairly "complete," in the sense that they are self-sufficient. They don't have loose ends.

    Balance at level 10 has a mastery that requires a passive that isn't available until level 11.

    That level of incompleteness is new.
     
    Bop said:
    That level of incompleteness is new
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    for all their focus on rebuilding the starter experience from top to bottom, it sure does feel like level 10 (where you end the starter isle at) wasnt real thought out as sort of a landing spot for trials. I get dangling the carrot, for sure, but as it stands its kind of a mushy, weird looking carrot.
     
    I like the way MM hunter is at 10. killing stuff from 60+ yards away is dope!
    ilvl 54
    arcane shot hits hard enough (380)
    Steady Shot is a mobile move (380)
    aimed shot is just way to OP (1574)
    A pet with a tanking, leech or speed buff.
    Zandalari buff along hits for 71.
    Not even close to BIS
    Hands down I think Hunter is the best at 10
    the Azerite traits you're able to use are your talents.
     
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    Class design to me feels solid. Class balance might be a nightmare. but mostly everything is fun to play in a vacuum. We'll see how it feels balance wise. Everything, at least, is crunchy and has a lot of core stuff. Kinda happy to see CC have some limits and be spread out more evenly. Hunter, for all its problems, at least has no concussive shot for the first time, what ever? Should ease the burden of death gripping backpedallers.

    Kinda into the minimalism of 10s, even with these weird kits and mastery and all. Feels like fear and polymorph and hamstring will be impactful spells again.
     
    Bop said:
    This is true, but even the most recent set of trial account abilities made each spec fairly "complete," in the sense that they are self-sufficient. They don't have loose ends.

    Balance at level 10 has a mastery that requires a passive that isn't available until level 11.

    That level of incompleteness is new.
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    I hope blizzard will notice stuff like this. This is like getting mend pet before getting a pet as a hunter lol.
     
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