How to: Loot Destiny, Hand of Edward the Odd, and Skullflame Shield under Level 20. (lvl 13 or 18)

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Did you think these items would remain unobtainable under 20?

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  1. zazzyfraz

    zazzyfraz Veteran

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    How to: Loot Destiny, Hand of Edward the Odd, and Skullflame Shield under Level 20. (lvl 13 i21, lvl 18 i27)

    No, this is not a Troll Post. It’s time.

    There are 14 mobs outside of LBRS/BWL. They have a 15 minute respawn.

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    https://www.wowhead.com/npc=9044/scarshield-sentry x11
    https://www.wowhead.com/npc=9043/scarshield-grunt x3

    These 2 mobs are Blackrock Spires mobs with LBRS Loot Tables, that happen to be outside LBRS. The outside Zone is Burning Steppes, and these mobs scale to level 15 min.
    These mobs can drop many “t3” Epics. Drop rate is estimated to be 1 Epic per 5k-25k kills. All of their loot can scale to a looter level of 15-18.

    Level 15 loots lvl 12 i21 Epic BoE World Drop Armor, and lvl 13 i21 Epic BoE World Drop Weapons.
    Level 16-18 loots lvl 17 i26 Epic BoE World Drop Armor, and lvl 18 i27 Epic World Drop Weapons.
    The next scaling of Epic World Drop Weapons lands at lvl 21 i29, looted by 19-21, unusable for a Level 20 Twink.


    Confirmed drops:
    Sash of Mercy, Helm of Narv, Jeweled Amulet of Cainwyn, Myrmidon’s Signet, Lifestone, Axe of the Deep Woods, Dwarven Hand Cannon, Krol Blade. Elemental Mage Staff, Brain Hacker, Stockade Pauldrons.

    Cloudkeeper Legplates (obtainable inside LBRS on a 20, i28)
    Destiny
    Skullflame Shield
    Hand of Edward the Odd

    axe.png belt.png destiny.png gun.png hand.png legs.png lifestone.png lvl 12.png narv.png neck.png orb.png ring.png shield.png


    Good Luck!


    Since at least as early as 9.1, Players have not been able to loot Classic Epic BoEs from World Mobs, until around level 40+. Reaching 50 seems to allow any Epics to drop from nearly any Classic Mob.

    20 and lower characters are still able to loot Classic Epic BoEs in Dungeons and from Emerald Encrusted Chest. These sources follow a Loot pool based on original level.
    The only places known where higher level “t3” drops for 20 are LBRS and Sunken Temple.
    (pic of t3)
    The 3 most desired pieces: Destiny, Skullflame Shield, Hand of Edward the Odd are Weapons so they need to be looted via 16-18 to be used on a 20 (lvl 18 ilvl 27). A level range with no access to the 2 Dungeons with "t3" Epics still naturally on their Loot Table.



    How did we figure this out?
    Xpoff user @Fang recently looted a lvl 21 Hurricane from https://www.wowhead.com/npc=24818/anvilrage-taskmaster outside of BRD on a 20 and shared this with the twinking world via thread: https://xpoff.com/threads/world-drop-farming-compendium-ilvl-28-boes.95489/page-20#post-1293450. This is a Dungeon known for dropping “t2” epics for 20s. As an experienced Uldaman farmer, I instantly recalled the mobs outside of Uldaman and Scarlet, which drop Zone BoEs of their Dungeons.
    During this time, I was working with @creepyjoe and @dANNN on Cataclysm Blues. @creepyjoe saw the pic of @Fang BoE drop and decided to see if he could loot an Epic in front of BRD on a 17. He ended up looting a level 17 i26 Freezing Band, and showed me. The first thing I thought of was the Scarshield Mobs in the hall leading to BWL, which have Wowhead data that they dropped a Blackrock Spire Quest Item long ago. So I sent him the link to them, and said try these. And so he did. And he looted a lvl 18 i27 Axe of the Deep Woods, a “t3” Epic Weapon. We informed our trusted friends @dANNN and @gelens on EU. We set up our farm, and eventually looted more Epics. It took many hours farmed, thousands of kills, and many Epic drops to finally see Destiny and Skullflame Shield.

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    Some more exploration on the subject leads to some possibilities.

    It is possible to scale Dungeon Specific Zone Blues under the Dungeons req. level in some cases. We were able to loot BRD Zone Blues scaled to 15.

    Can we loot any Epics in front of Scarlet Monastery/Maraudon or somewhere else on a 10? What drops from Mobs tied to Sunken Temple? Are there any other useful Dungeon BoEs or Epics that could be just out of reach but possible with this method, for levels other than 20 Twink?

    Is Cloak of Flames usable by 20 unobtainable post-BfA? What about Teebu, and Alcor's Razor for FtP who can't Pickpocket to target them from Junkbox?
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    Special thanks to @creepyjoe , @dANNN , @gelens for testing many different theories and spots over the last months, and helping with this final farm.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2022
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  2. Ivo

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    zazzyfraz

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    GIVE me POSTIVE REACTS please
     
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    Incredible! Just outstanding, guys.
     
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  5. Goohd

    Goohd born good

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    expected nothing less from zazzy
     
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    Hah, nice.
     
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  7. Hennelorix

    Hennelorix So complicated was the fall

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    Im happy that i dont have any melee str class otherwise i would have to farm this. Great work
     
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    So is Zazzy allowed to tell people to "Just farm Destiny" in the discord now?
     
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  9. Ivo

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    Yeah yeah it's cool but...
    Jackhammer when ??
     
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    love the chat reactions to the drops
     
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    We're well into Shadowlands, and Zazzy and friends are still making discoveries of what's possible while opening up even more avenues to explore. When twinks look back at Shadowlands as the single most impactful expansion for gear changes in all of WoW, Zazzy's Valued Tester badge will remain firmly stamped on this piece of history.
     
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    Mad respect and big thanks for sharing the info. Your stonks just went super high in my book.
     
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    Epic work, a whole expansion in the making. Great job
     
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    Is there anything worthwhile for a 20 F2P to farm? It seems the weapons and shields are going to be out of reach :(
     
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    zazzyfraz

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    No, the loot pool is basically the same as LBRS trash which would be better for a 20 to farm cloudkeeper legplates
     
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    Thanks for the info! Amazing find. Ever since I joined here I've heard how amazing and mythical that Destiny and shield are
     
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    Though I haven't spent much time in this community, I'm glad to have been a part of something as momentous as this. I think the big thing we can take away from our effort is that we should stay diligent in testing and discovering new things about the game because there's always something new to be found. Maybe not something like this but hopefully something cool nonetheless lol.

    Big shoutout to @Fang who, perhaps unintentionally, put the last piece of the puzzle into place so we could all see the big picture.
     
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    Yummy !
     
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  20. Rhaellia

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    Nice find. I'm afraid I won't being farming this myself.

    You see, I main ret paladin and while Destiny might be neat on a paladin I could never justify equipping it without first having one on a warrior but I don't play warrior anymore, ergo I can't possibly farm this for my paladin. Flawless logic, I know!

    Anyway, goodluck guys!
     
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