EU+US Frost mage full haste
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Bestworld
MBA
I tried full haste in WoD and early legion. It's decent fun for WPvP if you're into 1vX situations and like to pull off some stylish plays, rather than 2-3 shotting with ice lance and ice nova. With that said, it's inferior to int stacking with a bit of haste here and there, because why cast when you don't have to xd.
Veechard
Legend
Best setup currently for mage is Arcane. There is a one shot macro you can make to give you 4 arcane charges, presence of mind, rune of power, arcane power, mind quickening gem, haste potion, drums. If they survive theu the first 2 instant arcane blasts, chase it up with a 3rd and then arcane barrage. It’s literally unstoppable
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/stormrage/ßefore
I realize princess dagger + IL 90 offhand would be better than staff but I hate not using staves on a caster. It’s my only petpeve
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/stormrage/ßefore
I realize princess dagger + IL 90 offhand would be better than staff but I hate not using staves on a caster. It’s my only petpeve
Bestworld
MBA
Depending on class, you can easily counter-play the bads, who rely on the arcane cheese mechanic. I wouldn't call it the best at all.
The first few min of this video displays the typical cheese tactic of arcane mages. I you're going to play arcane, play it as a more well-rounded spec instead of relying on cheese that only works against people who don't expect it.
Veechard
Legend
Who’s relying on anything? I was just saying what it takes to kill your average geared average skilled twink, and how fast it is. If the person happens to be skilled and extremely geared I would have to go about the fight differently. Like saving Pom and AP for when needed. Or casting AB and blink turn around before it’s done casting and your facing the wrong way.
Just because someone is posting about a cheesy setup, don’t assume that’s their crutch. I still play fire a lot as I like the spec and in fact my 3 other 60s are the NON goto specs because I like to play them. Outlaw rogue , marksman hunter, prot pally
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Edit: Btw I haven’t found a class that can beat arcane in a duel and I’ve dueled a lot of 60 twinks post 7.3.5. You never said how arcane mages aren’t the best for pvp currently, you just said “depends on the class” and you assumed the player was bad.
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Bestworld
MBA
I said it's bad to rely on cheese as it can be counter-played, as portrayed in the video. I have done it on rogue as well by simply resetting the match after the first pom arcane blast hits (insta vanish), that way you can tank the 2nd one and still live through the duel, and I didn't say arcane isn't the best spec, I said that if you're going to play arcane, play in a way that doesn't rely on cheesy cooldown mechanics in order to win. "Bads" is the general term for people who needs the playstyle in order to be successful, funny you took it to heart, might say a thing or two.
You were implying that arcane was the best, due to the oneshot cheese mechanic, which is not the sole reason as to why arcane is good. Plus it gets super boring reeeaaal fast.
Rogues have a near oneshot macro as well when you're counting in trinkets and consumable usage as you did in your example.
Veechard
Legend
Oh here let me just forget that I have 5 major cooldowns and not use them because they are cheesy. Gtfo of here man. Your probably same kinda person who cry’s about survival hunts. Yes they are strong. Get over it. If a scrub clicker wants to roll an arcane mage and make a one shot macro, more power to them. At least they chose the strongest class. That’s a lot smarter than denying they are good / boycotting the class
Zerofoxtrot
Veteran
Claiming arcane is the strongest class because it has a one shot macro is a bit of a stretch. My fury warrior also has a one shot macro that is ranged damage. Arcane is strong, no doubt... but strongest class may be a bit of a bias statement.
Bestworld
MBA
Can you stfu already? Where am I denying that they are good?
Am I saying "boycott the class", because there are other ways of playing the spec, other than relying on cheese mechanics? The cheese style isn't what makes arcane good. Arcane is good because it's arcane, not because you pop rune of power swifty macros. No one ever talked about boycotting anything. If you can't see the downside of building yourself around being a stationary turret, which only works with cooldowns, then idk wtf to tell you. Using cooldowns was never the issue, the issue arises when you aren't able to do shit outside them, because you chose a talent tree that basically dictates you to play in a very scripted manner, with little to no choice of adaptation. You'll have a laugh once or twice, and then shit gets old. Pre-cast rune of power, pop oneshot swifty macro. E x c i t e m e n t b t w.
Strongest class? By your merits or? Strongest because it has an available swifty macro? Because the swifty macro is not what makes them the strongest class at all.
Another fun thing is, that none of this will ever transition into an instanced pvp scenario either (not that it was the matter of the topic, but another downside nontheless).
I just find it incredibly hilarious that this offended you so deeply, when all I gave was different point of views, and what that type of gameplay it dictates.
And exactly, arcane mage is not the best class because of the oneshot mechanic. Arcane is very strong when played properly, and not necessarily for the oneshot cheese. Mages generally have a very well-rounded toolkit at these levels when comparing classes and what they are able to do.
handsomedgc
Scum of the earth
Even tho this had nothing to do with the topic I had a fun encounter with a new level 20 troll mage. He was telling me about this insane haste trick and I thought that this new player might discovered some game changing.
After about 20 minutes of him trying to decide what spec to show it on he finally started. All he did was pop huis racial and shot 3 pyro's add me and saying 'See that was about 25% vaster' before logging of.
Now on topic: secondary status don't scale well at level 60 so you're better of intstacking
After about 20 minutes of him trying to decide what spec to show it on he finally started. All he did was pop huis racial and shot 3 pyro's add me and saying 'See that was about 25% vaster' before logging of.
Now on topic: secondary status don't scale well at level 60 so you're better of intstacking
BradShields
Veteran
What is this IL 90 offhand you speak of
Winterly
Level 1 Hunter
What's Princess Dagger? and what's the offhand?
ShinyHero
“Every-Level Twinker”
http://www.wowhead.com/item=17780/blade-of-eternal-darkness
Is dagger Idk what off hand they talking about
