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PTR F2P relevant changes in 8.1.5

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  1. Chops

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    So I figured I'd follow along with other brackets and record some changes so far that might interest us. Starter accounts arent allowed on the PTR, so I logged my druid vet to check some things out.

    TL DR - Alot of dungeon gear will be changing at it kinda shakes up what is and isnt BiS BUT it will also narrow the gap between new twinks and twinks in grandfathered gear almost completely.

    As most of yall who read the forums are likely aware, proc enchants got hit pretty hard. Things like ele force, coastal surge, hidden satyr, etc are all eating a 40-60% reduction. Good for us, it narrows the gap between us and the P2P twinks. Unfortunately crusader still seems broken.

    Brewfest trinkets havent started procing yet.

    Quest blues and dungeon boss blues are scaling up to ilvl 25/26. This difference in ilvl appears random. My toon, for instance, has two Armor of the Fangs, acquired in back to back runs. one is ilvl 25, the other 26. Same for gloves and belt. There is no difference in stats between the two.

    This bump in ilvl has mixed effects on gear. Some, like my cloak, saw no increase in stats. Others, like the chest, increased each stat by 1. Some pieces see an increase on just 1 or two of their stats. It really seems like its a bit of a crap shoot.

    I checked Wowheads ptr database and discovered an oddity that perfectly illustrates this. Slime Encrusted Pads are 5/7/3/3 live right now. They will increase to 5/8/4/4 on the ptr.

    Comparable caster shoulders Feline Mantle are 5/7/3/4 live, but only go to 5/8/3/4 on the ptr. So if you're a cloth caster, your BiS shoulders just changed. By one point of haste.

    Further, BG crate gear hasnt changed. This means that awful, awful grind for BiS weapons and such has lessened. For some of us. For instance, theres no difference between the Haunting Blade and the BG crate axes of aurora for warriors. Same dps, same stats.

    But, for others, its a little more frustrating. Thruks Fillet Knife, for instance, is 1 int less than BG crate gear. The Eerie Stable Lantern is equal in main stats if you dont mind the poor secondaries.

    Shields however, wont change. Pour one out for our poor shaman bretheren.

    I did copy over some ancient toons I had on a linked BNet account and it does seem to hold true that gear acquired before Legion will not scale up. So if you got a pretty old twink, youre gonna end up having a bit of a re-gear ahead of you. Now Im not sure of the exact cut off (word on the street is 7.3.5) but if you have a relatively new twink, you should see your gear scale.

    On that note, I did compare some PTR items to my toons warforged Invasion gear. Granted, I dont know what, if anything, happens to that invasion gear on the PTR. As far as I can tell, it remains unchanged. But since I cant copy my F2Ps there... who knows.

    Here's what I found. Your ilvl 26 dungeon drops will be comparable or just a hair behind ilvl 27 invasion gear (obviously, wont be near the ilvl 31 gear.) which is as you'd expect. Some pieces of invasion gear may give way to dungeon drops that now have similar stat rolls but more preferable secondaries. And while the ilvl 31 gear will still be preferable, its no longer by much. The gap between grandfathered and new twinks continues to narrow.

    I'll poke around a bit more tomorrow but y'all feel free to share any findings you might have here.
     
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  2. DoByG

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    Looms are unchanged.
    Invasion gear is unchanged.
    Green items that drop from rares are unchanged ( both scaled and unscaled)
    Cloaks and Necks (bracers as well, but RBG bracers do the same) from RDF can now proc 1/4 secondaries, which maces them BiS over dung drops (2/2 and 2/3 only)
    RiP Me farming 1k+ rares for an an unscaled superrior belt as now the leather belt from sfk give same stats + 1 armour :X

    P.P. Actually, the Cloaks/Necks assumption was made on the fact that one of the WC cloaks now has 1/4 secondaries, which means that ilvl 26 is enough to proc 2 points of difference. Someone still needs to confirm this with a 1/4 Neck/Cloak from the RDF reward bag.
     
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  3. icehawk

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    All the purples from the World Events haven't scaled :(

    But more importantly, please tell me this isn't happening......
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  4. SPQR

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    it is and moreover new portal room is 50% worst. most destinations there require additional travel.
     
  5. Light

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    Good I always hated fast travel. Never get to enjoy the world
     
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  6. SPQR

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    Kinda undermines the logic and is a waste of time / resources of development when it is done is such way.
    Amma grabbing popcorn for the shitstorm to come.
     
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    Totally sincere about this: flying mounts and portal rooms were two of blizz’s biggest mistakes
     
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    When I found out we could fly I got so excited. Then after week of training flight it was boring. If they made flight be something temporary that came with a cool reward or daily that be really sick. I’m not totally against flying but it being permanent... ya it gets old quick
     
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    Curious to see the difference between pre-7.3.5 unscaled ilvl 25 items vs. post-8.1.5 scaled ilvl 25 items, if there are any.

    P.S.: R.I.P. Portal Rooms.
     
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    Chops

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    It's an admittedly small pool but none of the ilvl 25 items on my old Korgath toons (rip) are any different from the upcoming ilvl 26 gear
     
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    From what I saw, weapons do have a slightly greater dps on the new items vs the old.
    Damn - hate that Strike of the Hydra grind :mad:
     
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    Chops

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    Proc got nerfed. It's not worth farming. Haunting Blade is where its at for haste/verse stats.
     
  13. SPQR

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    It is character level +i6. so the new ilevel for 20s is going to be i26.

    Old gear in general are bound to get prostate exam at some point but i think it will be trickier for blizz to do without massive fuckups since items were hand made and not scaled to level + they all still have same id numbers.

    There is going to be some difference in stats but to be honest the shorter controlling stick bliz have over my gear the happier i am.
     
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    Any idea if the ilvl 30 leather headgear that's been grandfathered will change?
     
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    Lol when they dont fix stuff thats needed and instead remove portals to "inconvenience" people
     
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  16. SPQR

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    Any gear you got before 7.3.5 remains same.
    For any effected gear past that this is basically a buff.
    atm.
     
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    Remains the same.
     
  18. icehawk

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    It’s a kick in the ghoulies for us poor F2P’s and Vets (well those without BFA).
    We will lose access to a lot of zones if this takes place. :mad:
     
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  19. Embu

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    In counterpart we will have to do our trips ourselves, and in a some extent it's not bad either

    I always remember the time I traveled along Outland while I had no flying destinations. A lot of deaths but a lot of fun too
     
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