DPS comparison between the most popular / common 2H TW weapons as an 11 Warrior (2nd attempt)

BoatsAndHoes

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I originally did this test and posted my results late last week but as @Autofail pointed out there was a major error.
Whirlwind has an 8 yard radius. Lifesteal however is only a 5 yard radius. So while Whirlwind might be hitting all of the AOE target dummies, 1 pixel the wrong way and Lifesteal will not reach.
Which totally explains why some of the 2h weapons procced lifesteal significantly less than other 2h'ers.

I havent moved my toon since I started this 2nd round of testing. There were attempts where I realized battleshout had expired, or I was testing with some random totem buff nearby and had to scrap those results and do it over.

@Katmandu pointed out theres a group of 4 target dummies right on top of each other in Boralus @ 63.9 23.10 which are the dummies I used.

I ran the tests will all gear except the weapons taken off, and then did them again with all of my gear equipped.
I did not re-gem or re-enchant to min max stats because I do not have a million gold.
The AH has caught on to our ways. The lifestealing enchant was 700G on my server when I made this toon a couple weeks ago. Its 1800G now.
Each test run was for 5 minutes. Does anything we fight take 5 minutes? No. But I figured 5 minutes takes RNG out of the equation.
You'll notice my ILVL is pretty low. I pretty much only use TW gear if its a slot I cant find sockets for at a lower level.

Surprisingly when geared they all finished within roughly 10% of each other.
And when running M+25 or going for cutting edge achievements 10% is a big deal, but for us at lvl 11 in TW it means even with the worst of these weapons we are still going to melt face.
Also please dont fret if your DPS add on when you are running dungeons shows significantly lower than these results. This was 5 minutes standing still hitting something that doesnt die. When were running zones we pretty much tag stuff and run, Ill generally finish a dungeon around 200-220 DPS, not near 600 like these results.

Here is my armory https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/cenarius/eleven/

After the initial post with the results there will be 8 additional posts showing:
DPS fully geared
DPS weapon only
Breakdown of DPS fully geared
Breakdown of DPS weapon only
Stats fully geared
Stats weapon only

Weapons I tested - All ILVL 60 unless otherwise noted
https://www.wowhead.com/item=127520/colossal-skull-clad-cleaver?bonus=11070 x 2
https://www.wowhead.com/item=9425/pendulum-of-doom x 2 (ILVL54)
https://www.wowhead.com/item=105679/hellscreams-decapitator x 2 (ILVL20) +3 STR gems x 4
https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 1
https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 2
https://www.wowhead.com/item=18324/waveslicer x 2
https://www.wowhead.com/item=7230/smites-mighty-hammer x 2
https://www.wowhead.com/item=65168/rockslicer x 2
https://www.wowhead.com/item=24461/hatebringer x 2 (ILVL30) +3 STR gems x 6
https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=232904/sulthraze-the-lasher x 1

And the results........

When Geared
1. https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 2 = 588 DPS
2. https://www.wowhead.com/item=18324/waveslicer x 2 = 576 DPS
2. https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=232904/sulthraze-the-lasher x 1 = 576 DPS
4. https://www.wowhead.com/item=24461/hatebringer x 2 = 563
5. https://www.wowhead.com/item=127520/colossal-skull-clad-cleaver?bonus=11070 x 2 = 561 DPS
6. https://www.wowhead.com/item=65168/rockslicer x 2 = 556 DPS
7. https://www.wowhead.com/item=9425/pendulum-of-doom x 2 = 555 DPS
8. https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 1 = 553 DPS
9. https://www.wowhead.com/item=7230/smites-mighty-hammer x 2 = 544 DPS
10. https://www.wowhead.com/item=105679/hellscreams-decapitator x 2 = 526 DPS

With only weapon equipped
1. https://www.wowhead.com/item=18324/waveslicer x 2 = 291 DPS
2. https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 1 = 280 DPS
3. https://www.wowhead.com/item=18717/hammer-of-the-grand-crusader x 2 = 277 DPS
4. https://www.wowhead.com/item=127520/colossal-skull-clad-cleaver?bonus=11070 x 2 = 273 DPS
5. https://www.wowhead.com/item=9425/pendulum-of-doom x 2 = 271 DPS
6. https://www.wowhead.com/item=24461/hatebringer x 2 = 269 DPS
7. https://www.wowhead.com/item=13505/runeblade-of-baron-rivendare x 1 & https://www.wowhead.com/item=232904/sulthraze-the-lasher x 1 = 268 DPS
8. https://www.wowhead.com/item=7230/smites-mighty-hammer x 2 = 258 DPS
9. https://www.wowhead.com/item=65168/rockslicer x 2 = 256 DPS
10. https://www.wowhead.com/item=105679/hellscreams-decapitator x 2 = 251 DPS
 
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DPS Fully Geared
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DPS Naked
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Breakdown of DPS fully Geared
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Breakdown of DPS naked
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Stats geared
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Stats Naked
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cletus said:
Hatebringer seems like another good candidate to test, particularly ideal gems.
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Only have 1 hatebringer right now but when I get a 2nd Ill run the test. not sure what ideal gems would be, pretty much doing all STR at this point and dont plan on re-gemming for any 1 weapon test
Enre said:
Ingvars cleaver and Barons runeblade would be nice to test.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/arathor/anonymous/
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I only have 2 ILVL 30 of the cleaver. I dont think it has dropped during TW for me, but when my recover item cooldown expires ill check to make sure I havent vendored any
 
Thank you for putting this together, good info. Looks like pretty much any lvl 60 weapon is going to do somewhere in the 550-580 range, only a 5% difference, so not even noticeable in our fight lengths. When a boss only takes 15 seconds to kill that makes less than a half of a second difference. But of course i do like pursuing the best! I only wish someone with the ability to write a custom code for us to use in raidbots had as much passion as you do. Then we would actually know what stats to run instead of chasing some made up haste number

On another note, it looks like you probably have all the gear. At this point it would be some really good info if you kept your best weapons equipped and ran a test with heavy haste, heavy crit and one with heavy verse.
 
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Still working on sims to get lifestealing working but i don't expect that to change results other than it being a bigger number.
Currently your method is looking to be superior and supports the idea that somewhere between Boats 20% haste and your 24% there is a threshold
As it stands right now on a 4 target sim, spamming ww, with lifestealing only adding 20% i am at 372, Boats at 384 and you at 431
From stat weights alone we are all pretty equal, also you and i have the Vigilance Charm trinket that is not working in sims that will increase your dps more
You both have racials that add some dps that i don't have

Edit- i screwed up, had too many sims open and most of had an extra buff or something checked on toofast, so disregard how high he simmed here
 
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have you guys tried with 15% (1.3s gcd) haste instead and higher crit? Ive not sat down to test every setup yet, but a 5minute session with 2x waveslicer going for 15% haste instead got this on 4x dummies:
edIt - i intended to test with high crit lower vers, higher vers lower crit and a balance of both for most weapon combos but keeping them all at 15%. Im not certain whether gcd rounds up/down but to me if 15% gives 1.3s gcd and 24% gives 1.2 - looking at it 20.5% or so haste gives 1.24 gcd, not sure if that rounds down or not. below was a test for 15% haste and higher crit. I was steady at 640 dps
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this is 5mins with 20% haste and slightly lower on crit/vers - comes out slightly lower.
Ive not tested other weapons/setups down at 15% haste yet

edit: if GCD rounds up/down, then the reason 20% -24% are hitting similar is because its rounding 20.5% down from 1.24s gcd to 1.2s gcd. 24% gives 1.2s gcd. Similarly 14.9/15% haste is going to 1.3s gcd. So the real comparison we'd want to do is 1.2s GCD vs 1.3s GCD - i.e ~15% haste vs 20%+ haste with different weapons and gear combos to get the highest stats we can
 
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With your 15% gear i have you at 389, which is second highest.
This is of course without lifesteal properly contributing
Also, couldn't tell from your post, were you at the same 4 target dummy cluster Boats used?
Toofast, if you would do the same test on the 4 target dummies in zandalar that would be great info
 
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