Community Project: Base stats for all race/class combinations

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  1. Mar 3, 2019 #1
    Chops

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    I'm not a huge fan of min/maxing but I know some people are and that, as F2P, we can often use every advantage available to us.

    With that in mind, I began compiling a list of the base stats (IE, no gear) for every class/race combo at level 20. I have a few but I don't even have close to all of them. This is where you come in. I've posted a screenshot of the list below with all my toons filled in.

    If you guys have a toon that fits a blank spot, could you please post a screenie of your character sheet, with zero gear, so I can get everything filled in. It'd be super helpful if for hybrid classes, you could get both specs that use different stats. Not worried about tank specs. But like, ret/holy for pallies and enhance/resto for shaman, etc etc etc.

    Im gonna need worgen, goblin, blood elf, draenei and panda fans especially. I just really hate leveling through those beginner zones.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13myiV-OsxYaUAa7q8O6DnVGDVA_4FgnHhUiNPfI2S7M/edit?usp=sharing

    ^here's where we're at so far
     
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    Is this the kind of thing you need?

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    to be continued.

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    Belf Disc Priest.jpg Belf Holy Priest.jpg Belf Shadow Priest.jpg
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    Orc Sub Rogue.jpg Orc Outlaw Rogue.jpg Orc Assass Rogue.jpg
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    Human Disc Priest.jpg Human Holy Priest.jpg Human Shadow Priest.jpg
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    Human Ass Rogue.jpg Human Sub Rogue.jpg Human Outlaw Rogue.jpg
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    Human WW Monk.jpg Human MW Monk.jpg
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    Can't match the funky formatting mind...
     
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    yall the real mvps
     
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    this is some great initiative rad to see actual community engagement on something like this

    here are my contributions, if you already have some of these sorry for not paying attention rofl
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    dug out my oldest 20 for this thread ;^)
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    if I find more chars I totally forgot about i'll post them here too

    edit 4/14/2019: I just realized the human hunter doesn't show any stats whatsoever I'm so fucking retarded lmao I'm also too lazy to fix it lmao soz
     
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    Oh yea, the formatting right now is just data gathering. Ill make it more readable. It's kind of a cluster fuck right now.

    I also didnt want people to have to do math. Just "I wanna roll a rogue, who's got the best base stats" and immediately compare.


    oh hell yes.
     
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    gimmie 2 mins nelf monk otw too
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    added more to original post @Chops enjoy

    edit: nvm I added like 3 more classes lel
     
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    Would probably be easier to share the google doc, but eh. What race combos are you still missing?
     
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    eh, im old and afraid of technology/the internet (jk, ill make it public in a bit)

    and pretty much any and all spacegoat, most troll, (oddly) most undead, the unpopular hunter races...
     
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    Part 2.


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    You seems good with rest i reckon?
     
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    Nice list, @Chops! Here are a few more entries that are missing:

    Panda Priest:

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    Tauren Priest:

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    Draenei Paladin:

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    *Tank specs have higher Stamina rating, maybe note that in your document?
     
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    yea, I was thinking it would be a base increase across all races and classes but its not so Im gonna have to go back and add it in.
     
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    Here's some more data if you want it, the Night Elf Priest value was wrong.

    I've noticed that the stats aren't class-dependent so I just came up with a summary table based on the data you gathered

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    The only major difference is Stam for Taurens (about 10-11 above other races), but that's only about 100/110 hp. I'm missing data for Troll warriors

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    The statistics that need real testing are probably the Battleground templates, that will be much harder to capture
     
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    Aye, I figured this was probably the case. However, a while back when I was checking level 1 stats, I noticed that pally and warrior stam values were different. Pallys start with 3 less stam than warriors, though they end up with the same values at 20.

    I really just wanted to make sure there werent any other outliers like that, which iswhy I wanted to get an actual look at every class/race combo, rather than just assume.
     
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    Seems like a lot of trouble to get pics of our toons without cloths but...
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    shit, busted
     
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    I've done some limited testing with Battleground stats, and there isn't a difference in each race's stats advantages (They have the same modifiers as the table above), with the exception that their stats are scaled to 29 e.g. (Str/Int/Agi are around ~70+ and Stam sits at around ~62). So, imo, base stats are so negligible that they would probably only make a noticeable difference at around levels 1-10, but if what Chops is reporting (about different classes have different starting stats) is true, there might be a special template for characters in the early levels
     
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