Blizzard's War on Fun

[cletus]

Blizzard's war on twinks may have finally succeeded... on me.

I'm aware that twink metas constantly get nerfed. Like I farmed WoD dungeon warforged gear in DF and they nerfed it to the point of being completely pointless both strictly worse than TW or BC dungeon drops. And then when level 10s were allowed into TW, TW gear was as good as the WoD dungeon gear ever was without the Warforged proc grind so what was the point of the nerf to begin with?

I honestly haven't played any twinks since the TW scaling nerf. You can say (correctly) that twinks previously couldn't do TW at all (below level 30-45 depending on the expansion) so what's really changed?

I think it's two things:

1. I thought TW was in a good state in DF honestly. But from the TWW prepatch through TWW there were about 5 different changes that all made TW worse. Like go into a Classic TW dungeon with 5 level 77s and see how much of a good time you have. Twinks (including geared 70s) and geared 80s are the only way TW in bearable. Blizzard just made the TW dungeons take twice as long for literally no reason and no greater rewards. Plus the 500/200 TW badge reward change compounded this; and
2. Remix. Given TW in an unenjoyable slog and I've levelled through all Retail content and that Remix levelling has been so much faster than any form of levelling in Retail, I honestly see zero point in levelling in Retail at all. I don't foresee levelling in Midnight until whatever Remix is in 12.2 (BFA is my guess).

Having TW specific gear used to be something open to everyone but the change where the dungeon scaled to you killed an entire community. And in most cases it didn't make much difference. It was just a nice to have.

There was a time when I used to farm Speed gear on some Retail toons for no other reason than it made farming certain legacy content faster and a little more enjoyable. A proper Speed set could shave 5 or even 10 minutes off of a Karazhan run back in SL/DF.

But Speed sets are basically dead. At 80 +Speed now adds so little it's not worth getting. After an accidental change to Longstrider that made blue dungeon Longstrider gear ridiculously fast, Blizzard nerfed all Longstrider into basic irrelevance to the point where I don't think I've used it or thought about it once in TWW.

So that's where I kind of feel all the twink item nerfs are going. It's a war on fun and I think Blizzard has won (for me).

 

[Rahn]

It always amused me that ever since MoP remix that whenever I do TWing that occasionally I'd see a retail player mentioning how the run would feel like a remix dungeon experience, and the conversation might steer in the direction of how slow max level characters are normally.

Though I mostly do F2P, I do recall the time where max level characters did have access to a whole bunch of items that could boost movement speed and you could get like over 200% movement speed (I think?, it's been so long) with like Baron Rivendare's sword with the movement speed enchant, food buffs, and the movement speed legendaries.