Black Widow Band

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  1. Follmann

    Follmann Grandfathered

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    I have seen higher level versions of the item around, so I assume it's dropping again. I have been farming the Leech Widow to verify that for quite a bit, but the loot table is fairly large and I had no luck so far. Has anybody here been able to get it to drop from her since the prepatch?
     
  2. Merlin

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    is it that hard to get them now ? i have like 8 stored in my bank .. kept them for years .. the last i read from wowhead is it doesnt drop from the widow anymore, might be random drop now

    this is from wowhead if its any useful:
    "but you will no longer find black widow band in her loot table since she is now level 21 (down from 24)"
     
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    Follmann

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    It stopped dropping with Cataclysm and returned for a while in salvage crates. However, the new scaling system is allowing many of the removed rare items to drop again (with the most famous being the Chromatic Sword). I do think that the Black Widow Band is also dropping again, since I have seen level 60 versions around. I just want to confirm if it's still obtainable from the Leech Widow, or if it's from some other means.
     
  4. necroaqua

    necroaqua Dedicated Guide Author

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    AFAIK it still doesn't drop. There are various ones left around from pre-cata and salvage crates. The level 60 versions are from people who opened salvage crates after scaling was implemented. I haven't seen anything other than the level 60 version and the usual level version.
     
  5. Merlin

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    the lvl19 ring is still dropping .. that is for sure .. but it is a random drop .. i have seen people putting fresh copy of lvl19 .. these are not left over from pre-cata .. but it is just very very rare .. i take the gauge from playing in 30+ realm AH .. the rate at which it appears and "disappear" .. it is rare, but still dropping .. since nobody knows who drops it, you must assume it is a random drop now
     
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    Follmann

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    It seems I was mistaken after all. Looking at the overall availability of the item on Undermine Journal in the last few years, there hasn't been an increase after scaling was introduced. I assume that obtaining a level 60 version would require GFed Big Crates?
     
  7. Dcm

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    I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but unless you witness a drop yourself and can prove it, can you please not spread this kind of information? Just because you see something go up on the AH does not mean it has any direct correlation to when it was obtained.

    thanks for coming to my ted talk
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 5, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 5, 2018 ---
    Also yes, I saw one up one one of my main realms (level 60) and the guy told me he obtained it from the grandfathered crates after scaling was implemented.
     
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    Good to know. I ended up getting a level 60 one that was up on Akama for 25k. It seemed weird to me that it would be up for that cheap given the specifics of attaining it. But since there is no evidence of it dropping again, the numbers don't support it and there are only the level 19s and a couple level 60s around, it's safe to say it's indeed not obtainable by usual means.
     
  9. Merlin

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    There are many factors that can influence the larger amount being flooded into the market this xpac vs others. The first being that the previous xpac is was garbage and worthless with ilvl and templates. Why would people sell a worthless item? On top of that, many twinks quit during the last xpac, meaning there was no demand and little supply. Its very common for people to hold on to items and slowly trickle them in over time for a greater profit. If I have 20 rings that I've saved up for years, why would I post all 20? Thats just stupid. Furthermore, many old twinks have come back with this latest xpac to play again, many of which likely had old rings in their banks or alts unbound back when it was a fairly garbage ring (cost stamina for a slight int boost, so generally not worth it outside of a glass cannon build). People keep random stuff and then decide to sell it years later, thats just how these things work.

    While it MAY still drop, without conclusive proof it is just as likely that the reasons I have outlined above are the reason for the influx of rings with this expansion. The simple answer is that we just don't know for sure. I don't believe I have seen a single PURE ftp player have one yet, which given how much those mad men and women farm for gear and the lengths they go to get drops, means that it is likely still gf'd. I would love to be wrong in this and other items but there is so much evidence against it still dropping.

    tl;dr: SS or it didn't happen
     
  11. Merlin

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    yes .. what you said is very reasonable .. but if they are twinks and they know the value .. they wouldnt have price them under 100k .. let alone in the 50k region .. some realms have it up for 500-1.1 now .. but still what you said is definitely possible .. i had consider all these possibilities .. i am a collector of all kinds of junk .. i am currently holding 8, and i dont plan to sell any of them, maybe after a few more months, i can have a clearer idea of what is going on with this ring .. what i wanted to say is dont insist it is no longer dropping just because they dont see it on their realm for a long time, everything is possible .. there are things that i know for certain its no longer available, but other things can only speculate but i always assume something is available, which is why i check for a list of items every 6-8 hourly across all realms AHs

    i am curious .. hasnt this ring been a twink item since day 1 ? i remember i activated one to test out on a lvl 91 during WOD's scaling bg
     
  12. necroaqua

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    It used to give -5stam I think - so was VERY niche for "I want to nuke EFC and am not worried about getting hit". So kinda. But not a popular one because negative stats.
     
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    Generally its fairly bad to lose 50 hp for a few extra int. Only glass cannon casters used it and even then that was pretty niche with rogues 1 shotting people with full ap ambush sets.
     
  14. Merlin

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    well, i do hope really that the lvl19 ones are no longer in game lololol .. on the other hand i was hoping i can collect a few more before it is no longer in game .. then after that i can price them at whatever price i want .. just kidding .. i collect them to beautify my guild bank .. not selling and not using .. so many times i wanted to use it on my lvl19s, then i change my mind .. the only time i use 1 was when i was testing the lvl91 .. at that time the WOD scaling was so crazy and nobody knows what was best to use, just had to test it out to find out
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 6, 2018 ---
    just saw 1 on Stormrage US AH .. going for 299.99 k
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 6, 2018 ---
    thrall-US has 1 at 434 k
     
  15. LennywBT

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    The only two versions are ilv 24 and ilv 58, no it doesn't drop anymore from the original mob or else you would see different ILVs. It does drop from those WoD crates you used to get from Garrison. :)
     
  16. Øiled

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    Hi Merlin, Would you consider selling a Black Widow Band?
     
  17. Merlin

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    i planned to keep them .. dont know what it will become in the next few expacs in the future
     
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    Not even that great of a ring right now, would definitely sell now while it has the niche value it does, unless you're a hoarder like me.

    If you want to keep it for collection sake, right on.
     
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